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Hello,am looking for any info on George Bethell who was born 1907 Toxteth Park Liverpool.am trying to confirm if he had a brother called William
Thanks

This him???


1911 census - household transcription
Person: BETHELL, George Albert
Address: 144a Beresford St Toxteth Park Liverpool

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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BETHELL, Margaret Ellen Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Liverpool Lans VIEW
BETHELL, George Albert Son M 5 1906 Liverpool Lans VIEW
BETHELL, Ada Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1909 Liverpool Lans VIEW
BETHELL, Sarah Ann Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Liverpool Lans VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22243 Reference:
RG14PN22243 RG78PN1315 RD454 SD2 ED16 SN92

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park South West Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
144a Beresford St Toxteth Park Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Hi Ann,Thanks so much for that.Yes info is spot on.Thanks Again

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

marriage
Bethell
to
Margaret Ellen:

Marriages Mar 1900
> Bethell Edward Prescot 8b 810
Johnson Faithful Prescot 8b 810
Owen Ellen Prescot 8b 810
> Taylor Margaret Ellen Prescot 8b 810

births
surname Bethell
mother's surname Taylor

-- no other births to this couple

Thanks Janey,No relation.

What was Margarets maiden name?

Have you tried looking for his birth here

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl


jax

Hi Jax,Margarets maiden name was Mingaud.

What does that mean, Margaret?

You said the 1911 census household was the right one.

The woman in that household is named Margaret Ellen, and that was the only marriage of a Margaret Ellen to a Bethell!

Ah. The woman in 1911 had been married four years.

So there must be some other marriage of a Margaret Ellen to a Bethell ... that isn't in the index ... Do you know what her husband's name was?

Right, cross-posted.

Had you looked for Bethell-Mingaud births?

There is no Bethell-Mingaud marriage.

Yes if you look at freebmd ....link given you will find his birth I wont spoil it for you

jax

Because there was no marriage?
oops, editing, as jax said ... ;)

Seems a big gap between children if that 1911 is them though.

jax

I'm lost. ;)

I was talking about George's birth. Not as Bethell?

I thought William was who we were looking for?

jax

George was born as a Mingaud then?

jax

I actually don't know. I hate these goose chase things. Is your connection to a George Bethell or a William Bethell, Margaret?

If you're actually looking for William, you should give the info you know about him, rather than asking for people to search for a link to someone else that may not exist.

What I was referring to was this:

Births Jun 1906
Mingaud George Toxteth Park 8b 143

who seems to be the George Bethell in the 1911 census, if that George's mother was Margaret Ellen Mingaud.

Births Mar 1885
Mingaud Margaret Ellen Toxteth Park 8b 226

No marriage.

I'm still lost.

I have a marriage cert for Margaret Ellen (nee mingaud)marries george bethell 1907.I know they had a daughter ada and sarah,so the 1911 census is correct.Looking at the census shows she had her son George in 1906 and then married her husband George in 1907.

Can you find that marriage at FreeBMD, Margaret?

II can't find it in spite of searching for every possible thing -- ... well, here we are.

Marriages Jun 1907
BETTEL George Liverpool 8b 29
BURNS John Liverpool 8b 29
GRAY Agnes Liverpool 8b 29
MINGARD Margaret Ellen Liverpool 8b 29

Found by searching for Marg* Ming*.

Not quite as advertised. Of course, I did ask for the husband's name quite a while back ...

Can you please explain what / why you are asking about William?

The image (I checked at Ancestry) says

MINGAUD, Margaret Ellen.

FreeBMD has mistranscribed it. You may want to submit a correction.

The link ws missing for the image for George, but I found the image, and he is actually shown as

BETHEL, George.

What a hash. I have no idea how FreeBMD could have mistranscribed either of them, let alone both.

Births Dec 1917
Bethel Margaret J Mingand Toxteth P. 8b 228

Sigh.

But really. George seems to be BETHEL, one L.

... Except that there are the two BetheLL-MingaUd births after that one, that FreeBMD was denying me earlier ...

Yes. William 1921, Annie, 1923. To simplify things.