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I am trying to find out more about my Boorn family. George Boorn b abt 1826 London, married Eliza Fossit/Fawcet/Fossett b. abt 1824 London in Sept. 1847 Gloucestershire. Cannot find anything to back up this information. George and Eliza moved to Edinburgh and can be seen in the 1861 Census at 335 Canongate along with their family. All born England. In 1861 George is a Photographer. He must have joined the army because subsequent certificates show this. I cannot find him dying however he is alive in 1869 but deceased in 1871 according to the marriages of his twodaughters. Where can I go from here? Any help would be appreciated.

Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
>>>>>BOORN George Gloster 11 380
Dix Hugh Gloster 11 380
>>>>FOSSET Eliza Gloster 11 380
Laidlaw Helen Gloster 11 380
Voyce Emily Gloster 11 380
WOOD John Gloster 11 380

Here's their marriage, not sure why you couldn't find it

Have you searched Scotlandspeople for his death?

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Oh Sorry I have found their marriage, cannot find their birth. According to Eliza's death certificate (Edinburgh) informant was her nephew, her father was Henry Fossit and mother Sarah Ann James.
As far as George is concerned I can find nothing on him what-so-ever. I have followed his family up the way and have got a fair amount of information on them. But none on his death or either of their parents.
Freda

I have been through to Edinburgh and searched many times for his death - Edinburgh is 'Scotlands people' now. I am thinking that he must have died in service somewhere. I have looked many places for his death, and birth. I appear to have hit a brick wall.
Freda

So do you have Georges fathers name and occupation from his marriage cert?
Were the witnesses any of his family.
How old does he say he is on it?

This is an English Marriage Certificate and in 1847 - it does not provide names of parents. If I could have found his death certificate it hopefully would give me his parents names, his age at death etc. This is all too difficult.
I have to thank you for the help you are giving me.
George has been a brickwall for me for a long long time I just wish I could get through it!

English marriage certificates have fathers names and occupations on them even in 1847,its the pre 1837 ones that dont as there were no certs and it was just parish..If they knew who their father was of course.

OK it appears I will have to send for the marriage certificate - just hope that it is my George and Eliza or purchasing the certificate will be a waste of time and money. I have the reference numbers so will send for it in the near future. I was obviously getting mixed up with Scottish and English certificates where the Scottish pre 1855 do not give parents names or occupation.
May I thank you for your assistance tonight.

Your welcome.
Where were they in 1851 please?

As yet I have been unable to find them on the 1851 Census for Scotland or England.

No,neither can I..!

George and Eliza would have been abt. 25 years old and daughter Emma would be abt. 3 on the 1851 census. Perhaps Mary Ann would be months old as she was 10 on the 1861 in Edinburgh. I am having another look at Ancestry.com and am finding nothing on them what so ever. - they appear to have disappeared during that period. That is why I wonder if he was in the army and posted outwith Britain at that time - it is so easy to start assuming!

Do you know where Eliza was born and her parents names please?
If you have her on 1841 maybe just the county she was born in?
I know I ask a lot of questions but anything to to try and find them would help.

Really need that marriage cert it seems...
It has to be their marriage,the names are correct and the time.

I cannot find Eliza on the 1841 either - her parents (according to her death certificate information) were Henry Fosset and Sarah Ann James. I always feel death certificate information is dubious. the 1861 says she was born England, the 1871 says England, the 1881 and 1901 says Nunney in Somerset the 1891 says England.
685/5 - 844 Eliza Boorn, General Dealer, widow of George Boorn, Sergeant, 3rdLight Dragoon Guards (Queens Own) died 27 July 1902 at 4Richmond Lane Edinburgh aged 73. Fatty Heart, Father Henry Fosset, Mother Sarah Ann James. Registered by William Harley (Grandson) 31 Buccleish Street, Edinburgh.

But as I said previously - the informant at death do not always hold the correct information - so I prefer to see the birth/marriage certificates also. William would not have known anything 'solid' about Eliza's parents. Information on them appears to be very fragmented. Actually on the 1881 it says Eliza was born Banbury - not Nunney - sorry

I will have a go again tomorrow Freda,I am too tired now.

Dragoon Guards,my Ggrandfather was in that too,never found his death either,sometime between 1872 and 1881 it has to have been though and G grandmother remarried ,to his BROTHER !,although it was a much more common name of John Callaghan..

I have also found that the name Boorn - has been translated as bourin, ( Eliza burn in the1881 census) and bourn

ok thank you again for your help have a nice sleep.

1881 Scotland Census about Eliza F Boorn
Name: Eliza F Boorn
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: England, Nunny

Night...

Name: Thomas Law
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: England