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Hi Im trying to find out any info on James Goldsmith born c1828, married a lady called Mary. They had 5 children named Florence, Edward, George, Alice and Ellen. Florence went on to marry a man called William Hourd born c1865. William and Florence are my great grandparents on my mothers paternal side, hense making James Goldsmith my great great grandfather.
If really hit a brickwall concerning James so any tiny bit of information would be greatly appreciated.
Nicki xx

Why the urgency on someone born in 1828 ???

Dea x

What area are they from?

Catherine

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Goldsmith Florence Wangford 4a 2114
Howard William Richard Wangford 4a 2114

Do you mean Howard?...

Chris :)

I certainly wondered the same thing !

freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

certainly if I were so anxious I would look for his marraige ............ no one else can becaus we don't know where he lived ...... and get his marriage certificate which will say the fathers of James and Mary .........

I would also look in the familysearch sites for his christening

I like this part in the instructions for posting

........ Give as much detail as possible when explaining who you are trying to find. If known, try putting the name, place of birth and year of birth in the subject line of your thread. All known information will make it much easier for volunteer helpers to help you. .........

chrissie x

The urgency is because Iv been searching for a long time and now want answers plus the word "urgent" gets peoples attention, lol.
I believe they are from the Sussex area. My grandfather was born in Newhaven, Sussex if that is any help.
Nicki x

Oh, we also believe that he was known as Captain, weather this was just a nickname or maybe he was actually a sea Captain of some sort.
Iv searched ALL records and have drawn a blank.

Type of thread I ignore for the very reason that URGENT annoys me

desperate, maybe .......... urgent, no ...............

some people's searches really are urgent: looking for an elderly parent or parent's elderly sibling before they die, looking for family because of medical problems .........

chrissie x

Ok I get the message, but as my elderly mother and even older relatives would like to solve the mystery, its near enough urgent to us.

any one of the children's birth certificates will give you Mary's surname

you will then look for the marriage and get the marriage certificate to learn the names of the fathers of James and Mary

censuses say James was born in Tonbridge, Kent ...

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

christening of James Goldsmith 1824 Tunbridge Kent ........ ?

only if the father's name matches the name on the marriage certificate

no more mysterious than any other birth before registration

where exactly have you looked and what certificates have you got in order to solve this mystery?

chrissie x

What are the birth dates of the children?

Catherine

Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
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FLOURD William Lewes 2b 329
Goldsmith Florance Lewes 2b 329
Hourd William Lewes 2b 329
Isger Agnes Maria Lewes 2b 329
PADDOCK Andrew Petworth 2b 329
PELLETT Albert Lewes 2b 329


1871

GOLDSMITH, James Head M 43 1828 Kent VIEW (Mariner)
GOLDSMITH, Mary Wife F 41 1830 Warwickshire VIEW
GOLDSMITH, Edward Son M 16 1855 Sussex VIEW
GOLDSMITH, George Son M 13 1858 Sussex VIEW
GOLDSMITH, Alice Daughter F 11 1860 Sussex VIEW
GOLDSMITH, Ellen Daughter F 7 1864 Sussex VIEW
GOLDSMITH, Florence Daughter F 5 1866 Sussex VIEW
GOLDSMITH, Harry Son M 2 1869 Sussex VIEW
STRINGER, Edwin Boarder M 2 1869 Sussex VIEW

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1070 Folio:
58 Page:
58

Registration District:
Lewes Sub District:
Newhaven Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Newhaven Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Lane, Newhaven County:
Sussex

Did she really marry a man almost 40 years her junior ??

Dea Xxx

Thanks everyone...off to look into the info.
xx

Dea I got confused for a minute too .............. it was daughter Florence who married in 1865

lol

chrissie x

the 1851 census

Name: James Goldsmith
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Brother
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Tonbridge, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Tonbridge
Town: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 148
Household Members:
Name Age
George Card 67
Elizabeth Card 67
Charles Card 41
Susan Card 30
Sarah Ann Card 3
James Goldsmith 26
Sarah Camelia Goldsmith 19


in fact that is not what it says, the Goldsmiths are brother and sister and they are not related to the Cards or living with them

James is a Grocer and Baker and for Sarah Cornelia it says Grocers Daughter so maybe the parents were away from home

if that is your James you will find Sarah Cornelia Goldsmith's christening 1833 at

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

and it gives the names of her parents

so you could search there for their marriage and other children

that family is in the 1841 census in Tonbridge but there is no James ....... ?


John Goldsmith 45
Sarah Goldsmith 40
Georgiana Goldsmith 20
Henry Goldsmith 15
John Goldsmith 13
Joseph Goldsmith 10
Sarah Goldsmith 8
Thomas Goldsmith 6


edit John Goldsmith is a Grocer

these don't fit with James being a mariner in the censuses with Mary though ...........

if you had searched all records would you not have seen teh censuses that show him as a mariner, to explain why he was called captain ?

clearly the only way to go farther is to get a child's birth certificate to get Mary's name, find the marriage, get the marriage certificate to get James father's name ..........

chrissie x

my goodness .....

the 1881 census says this

Name: Mary Goldsmith
[Mary Lees] <<<<<<<<<
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James E. Goldsmith
Mother's name: Delilah Lees <<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Denton
County/Island: Sussex


and it's pretty easy to find that marraige

chrissie x


edit which perfectly matches his death ?

Deaths Jun 1894
Goldsmith James Erasmus 66 Lewes 2b 108