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Gregory
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13 Apr 2011 09:39 |
At the moment I have a vague reference to a Hannah Green of Lancaster who married a Thomas Dean, originally of Hanley in 1868. I am trying to find more information about Hannah Green. Any help much appreciated.
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Gee
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13 Apr 2011 09:57 |
Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dean Thomas West Derby 8b 568 Green Hannah W. Derby 8b 568 Kelly William West Derby 8b 568 Murdock Elizabeth Agnes West Derby 8b 568
The marriage certificate should give you her fathers details
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Abby
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13 Apr 2011 10:39 |
Marriage: 29 Jul 1868 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England Thomas Dean - 44 Book Keeper Widower of Everton Hannah Green - 34 Widow of Everton Groom's Father: Samuel Dean, Saddler Bride's Father: Thomas Bowdler, Boot Maker Witness: Thomas Harrison; Lydia? Knight Married by Banns by: W. T. Hindley Curate Register: Marriages 1866 - 1869, Page 156, Entry 311 Source: LDS Film 2147878
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Abby
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13 Apr 2011 10:50 |
Name: John Green Gender: Male Event Type: Marriage Birth Date: Christening Date: Marriage Date: 14 May 1855 Banns Date: Death Date: Burial Date: Event Date: Birthplace: Christening Place: Marriage Place: St. Oswald's, Chester, Cheshire, England Banns Place: Death Place: Burial Place: Event Place: Father's Name: Thomas Green Mother's Name: Principal's Marital Status: Widowed Principal's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England Spouse's Name: Hannah Bowdler Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England Spouse's Father: Thomas Bowdler Spouse's Mother: Age: Full Age Image Number: 13 Digital Folder Number: 4201836 Film Number: 2068357 Collection: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
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BatMansDaughter
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13 Apr 2011 12:51 |
Hi,
I presume this is the census for Thomas and Hannah;
1881 England Census about Thomas Dean Name: Thomas Dean Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Dean Gender: Male Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Upholland County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Roby Mill Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Police Constable Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Upholland ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dean 37 Hannah Dean 28 Born Lancaster, Lancashire Thomas Hy. Dean 9 Elizabeth Dean 6 Annie Isabell Dean 2 John Wm. Dean 1891 England Census about Hannah Dean Name: Hannah Dean Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Dean Gender: Female Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Tonge With Haulgh Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Town: Tonge County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Tonge with Haulgh ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dean 49 >> Police constable Hannah Dean 38 Thos H Dean 19 Eliz Dean 16 Frances Dean 14 Annie I Dean 12 John W Dean 10 Lawrence Dean 8 Herbert A Dean 5 George Dean 2 So it looks likely that the marriage posted above can't be them. Where did you get Hannah's maiden name from?
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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13 Apr 2011 13:14 |
This is their daughters birth registration...... I think I would order a birth certificate to confirm Hannah's maiden name;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dean Ann Isabel Burnley 8e 255
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Gregory
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14 Apr 2011 22:58 |
The information provided by Ginny is certainly what I had been looking at as providing me with the link between Thomas Dean of Hanley and Hannah his wife of Lancaster. The tender age of Hannah at the marriage tends to suggest this probably isn't the right one. The 1881 census and 1891 census details provided by BatMans mum are the correct family. the 1891 census, which has so far eluded me provides a couple of unexpected surprises. Having looked at both Thomas Dean and Charles Corns, it is shaping up to be a large family gathering ....
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Gregory
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29 Apr 2011 02:17 |
Just to keep you all up to date .... (I appreciate all your help)
My grand-fathers birth certificate has just arrived - it turns out Hannah was 'Price' - hadn't even come close to that one!
At least I know who I am trying to track down now! Must admit to being puzzled as I can find only one marriage reference - in Leeds! (Seems unlikely, but ....)
The 1881 census shows Hannah as being from 'Lancashire, Lancaster'. So I have a bit of a riddle to solve - How does a girl from 'Lancashire, Lancaster' get to meet a lad from Hanley, Staffordshire and have a brood the length and breadth of Lancashire?
Thanks for your help though - I wouldn't have got here otherwise!
Cheers,
Greg
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patchem
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29 Apr 2011 08:26 |
? Births Jun 1852 Price Hannah Lancaster 8e 532
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Gee
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29 Apr 2011 09:23 |
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Hannah Price Name: Hannah Price Gender: Female Birth Date: 10 Jun 1852 Christening Date: 8 Aug 1852 Christening Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's name: Samuel Price Mother's name: Elizabeth
Thinking out loud!
I wonder if this is Hannah's parents marriage?
Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Price Samuel Lancaster 21 472 <<< Shuttleworth Elizabeth Lancaster 21 472 <<<<
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29 Apr 2011 09:48 |
1851 England Census about Samuel Price Name: Samuel Price Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Price Gender: M (Male) Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Lancaster Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Lancaster Castle County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Lancaster Sub-registration district: Lancaster ED, institution, or vessel: 5m Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 178 Piece: 2272 Folio: 486 Page Number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Price 37 Elizabeth Price 39 Sarah Shuttleworth 18 <<Step children Ann Shuttleworth 16 Jane Shuttleworth 11 Agnes Shuttleworth 8 Elizabeth Shuttleworth 5
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lancashireAnn
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30 Apr 2011 18:07 |
if that is the right family Elizabeth's maiden name was Garth
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference PRICE * Samuel GARTH Elizabeth Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/4/239 PRICE * Samuel SHUTTLEWORTH Elizabeth Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/4/239
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1842 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference SHUTTLEWORTH Agnes Lancaster Preston GARTH LAN/5/88
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lancashireAnn
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30 Apr 2011 18:09 |
and Hannah
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PRICE Hannah Lancaster Preston GARTH LAN/17/75
Baptisms: 8 Aug 1852 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Hannah Price - Child of Samuel Price & Elizabeth Born: 10 Jun 1852 Abode: Lancaster Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: E Pedder, Curate Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1852, Page 284, Entry 2268 Source: LDS File 1526200
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LondonBelle
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30 Apr 2011 19:17 |
Could this be their marriage?
Marriages Jun 1874 Atkinson Elizabeth Leeds 9b 547 Croysdale John Leeds 9b 547 >>>DEAN Thomas Leeds 9b 547 >>>Price Hannah Leeds 9b 547
Perhaps Thomas was married before?
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lancashireAnn
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30 Apr 2011 23:09 |
the yorks bmd version to prove which bride
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference DEAN Thomas PRICE Hannah St George, Leeds Leeds CE44/C/180
if Thomas was a police constable you may be able to find police records for him
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lancashireAnn
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30 Apr 2011 23:14 |
in fact
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/records/policesearch.asp
there are 2 Thomas Dean's
this page gives an enquiry form. The details may show that Thomas was transferred to Leeds. At best it will give you his full police record and when and where he married
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lancashireAnn
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6 May 2011 14:12 |
when you get the police records from the LRO you should get a wealth of info. The Thomas Dean (Police ref PL11/17) is your man.
Can't remember if you found him in 1861 but if not it was because he was serving with 15th Hussars. Born Hanley, Staffs, Living Liverpool when joined police Apr 1872, removed from force 17-8-1896 as died 11-8-1896 married Leeds to mary (?) Hannah Price there is a lot more detail on the record
PL11/27 Thomas Henry b 13-1-1872 died 21-2-1942 - son?
I will have a quick look for herbert
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6 May 2011 16:25 |
From LancsOPC...Hannah was baptised at the Priory Church of St Mary
Baptism: 8 Aug 1852 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Hannah Price - [Child] of Samuel Price & Elizabeth Born: 10 Jun 1852 Abode: Lancaster Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: E Pedder, Curate Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1852, Page 284, Entry 2268 Source: LDS File 1526200 For pictures of the church....................
http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/images/lancs/lancaster/mary.jpg
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http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/images/lancs/lancaster/mary_int.jpg
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lancashireAnn
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6 Jun 2011 14:28 |
just to keep this thread updated
from his police record Thomas Dean did indeed marry Hannah Price at St George's Leeds
son Thomas Henry Dean married Emma Wallace at Christ Church Waterloo, Crosby
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