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Seems you knew most of this before we rushed off to help you. I searched long and hard for John Hawkins. I asked how you knew he was John. I am still waiting for a reply.

thank you all very very much. thats graet info . bigggggggggg thank you to you all . i found some of the info on the forest of dean net

Is this what you found ?
It doesn't say his father was John

Milson Hawkins
Male
Event(s):
Birth: About 1860 Coleford, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: Hawkins
Mother: Eliza

Found this on the Forest of Dean website


ecord_ID: 12630
Entry_Number: 285
Year: 1843
Month: May
Day: 8
Grooms_Surname: HAWKINS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Shoemaker
Grooms_Residence: Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Hawkins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: DAVIES
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: none stated
Brides_Residence: Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Davies
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Edwin Morgan
Witness_2: Ann Rowles
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H W Sheppard Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 143
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: H252
Soundex_Bride: D120

Husband
Hawkins Pedigree


Birth: About 1821 , , England

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Wife
Eliza Pedigree
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Children

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1. Annie Hawkins Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1841 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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2. William Hawkins Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1843 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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3. John Hawkins Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1845 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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4. Emma Hawkins Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1847 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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5. Sarah Hawkins Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1847 West Dean, Gloucester, England
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6. Richard Hawkins Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1855 Newland, Gloucester, England
Christening:
Death:
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7. Charles Hawkins Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1857 Newland, Gloucester, England
Christening:
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8. Milson Hawkins Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1860 Coleford, Gloucester, England
Christening:

Milson Hawkins Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: About 1860 Coleford, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: Hawkins Family
Mother: Eliza

Repeating CiP's find, but with next door neighbours:


1851 England Census
Civil parish: Newland
Town: Coleford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Back Lane
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c

Household schedule number: 17

Elizabeth Hawkins 29 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head U Dressmaker
George Hawkins 2 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son
Susan Hawkins 2 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son
Martha Hawkins 1MO Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son

Household schedule number: 18

John Hawkin [Hawkins] 51 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head M Shoemaker
Eliza Hawkin [Hawkins] 29 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife M
Ana Hawkin [Ann Hawkins] 16 [10] Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
William Hawkin [Hawkins] 8 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son
John Hawkin [Hawkins] 6 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son
Emma Hawkin [Hawkins] 4 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Tom Hawkin [Hawkins] 2 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son
Martha Bunt 18 New Bilton, Staffordshire, England Servant U General Serv

Household schedule number: 19

Thomas Hawkins 64 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head W
Mary Hawkins 34 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter U
William Hawkins 26 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son U
George Hawkins 21 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son U Labourer

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2444; Folio: 143; Page: 4-5; GSU roll: 104181.

[I've submitted changes to Ancestry]

This looks like the 1851 census.


1851 England Census
about Eliza Hawkin
Name: Eliza Hawkin
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Newland
Town: Coleford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hawkin 51
Eliza Hawkin 29
Ana Hawkin 16 possibly age 10 on image
William Hawkin 8
John Hawkin 6
Emma Hawkin 4
Tom Hawkin 2
Martha Bunt 18 servant


Christine

Where did you find the birth of Milson Hawkins? At a local register office? What was Eliza's maiden name? Or was it a baptism record? Where did you find it please?

yes i went and found the birth of milson hawkins .and it came up john and eliza hawkins 1859 thank you very much

Who is John Hawkins? I have not found this family in 1851 to determine who the father was. You need to know Eliza's maiden name to find her first marriage. The best bet is the birth of Milson in 1859.

hi thank you very much iv found about 6 marrages of john hawkins .iv just got to work out witch one it is thanks loaddddddddddddddddddssssssssssss

Brenda

Please take notice of the advice you have been given.....otherwise there's no point in asking for help

Buy EITHER her second marriage cert......or the son's birth cert..posted ABOVE.

eliza was born 1821 . do not now her maidem name .

Another way to find out..............

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
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HAWKINS Milson Monmouth 11a 32

hi .eliza bord 1821 married hawlins .not surewhe she married him but the first child annie b 1841. william b 1843. john b 1845. emma b 1848 .richard b 1855. charles b 1857. milsonb 1859. then in 1861 she married richard hale . there childern richard 1867. eliza 1863 . thats all what iv got to go on . thank you

1861

Name: Eliza Hawkins
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Newland
Town: Coleford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Hawkins 40
Annie Hawkins 20
William Hawkins 18
John Hawkins 16
Emma Hawkins 14
Richard Hawkins 7
Charles Hawkins 4
Milson Hawkins 8 Mo

Right................for info only

1871

Name: Eliza Hale
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richard
Gender: Female
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Newland
Ecclesiastical parish: Newland All Saints
Town: Coleford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Hale 53
Eliza Hale 51
Richard Hawkins 17
Charles Hawkins 15
Milson Hawkins 12
Eliza Hale 8
Richard Hale 4

When was Eliza born?

Where was she born?

Her father's name (if she knew him) will be on the marriage cert......thus providing you with her maiden name, and the facility to look for her first marriage.

When was the first child born in her first marriage?

TIP:

Don't use your own name for the thread title.........not exactly informative.

Give an idea of what you are looking for..............