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hi all
i need some advice, im looking for birth index for mary gilbert born coventry 1846, farthers name josiah [joseph] gilbert, mothers name caroline parker,
i can find a lot of marys born 1843 but no 1846,
i have found 2 entrys for 1846, but they do not state first name just sex of child
is there a reason why first name is not on register ?
the entrys are, jan 1846 coventry 16 423
and jan 1846 foleshill 16 451,
so any help on this matter, would be gladly accepted,
BEST WISHES JOHN

Hi John
It could be that her birth wasn't registered. Registration didn't become compulsory until 1875. Between 1837 and 1875 it was up to the Registrar to find the births and get them registered if the parents didn't bother so obviously a great many were missed. From 1875 onwards it became the parent's responsibility to register each birth with fines incurred if they didn't and were caught.
Your Mary could be one of the children who were missed.
There is a submitted entry on the IGI for her but it gives no further details other than date of birth 1846.
In the census records she varies between 1844 and 1846 so if you want to continue searching then you probably need to spread your search a little wider but I couldn't find anything that you could think was definitely her.

Astra xx

from IGI

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Josiah (Joseph) Gilbert Compact Disc #128 Pin #4532021 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1825

Coventry, Warwickshire. England
Christening: 24 Jun 1825

Holy Trinity Par, Coventry, Warwickshire, England

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Parents
Father: John Gilbert Disc #128 Pin #4532697
Mother: Ann Disc #128 Pin #4532698

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Caroline Parker Disc #128 Pin #4532040
Marriage: 24 Dec 1842
St Johns, Coventry, Warwickshire, England


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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
Sylvia May STENY
19 Schulz Avenue Whyalla Norrie South Australia 5608


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A not very helpful SUBMITTED record


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Husband
Josiah Gilbert Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
Caroline Parker Pedigree


Birth: About 1825 Coventry, Warwick, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1844 Coventry, Warwick, England
Death:
Burial:



Father: John Parker Family
Mother: Mary


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Children

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1. Elizabeth Gilbert
Female

Birth: About 1845 Coventry, Warwick, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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2. Mary Gilbert
Female

Birth: About 1846 Coventry, Warwick, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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3. Harriett Gilbert
Female

Birth: About 1848 Coventry, Warwick, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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4. Caroline Gilbert
Female

Birth: About 1850 Coventry, Warwick, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

I see they registered the other children.

A child can be registered without a first name. Sometimes that is because - despite nearly 9 months + 6 weeks to register in - the family has not yet chosen a name.

If you run a search with Unnamed in the first name column for any census, you'll see plenty of babies 4 weeks and older without names.

Some families placed more importance on the baptism and not the civil registration.

You could try ordering this one:

Births Mar 1846
Gilbert Female Coventry 16 423

Rose

1891 England Census
about Caroline Gilbert
Name: Caroline Gilbert
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Coventry
Sub registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age

Joseph Gilbert 68 Brewer
Caroline Gilbert 66
William Gilbert 31 Son, Brewer




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2452; Folio 103; Page 26; GSU roll: 6097562.

This isn't submitted and ties in with the birth I listed.

MARY GILBERT
Event(s):
Birth: 01 FEB 1846
Christening: 07 JUL 1861 Saint John, Coventry, Warwick, England

Parents:
Father: JOSEPH GILBERT
Mother: CAROLINE

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C043671

Rose

hi all
i would like to say a big thank you, for all your help and advice
i think i wil take a chance and purchase some birth certifacates
dont think i have any option with this one.
THANKS AGAIN
BEST WISHES
JOHN

when you order the certs make sure you specify parent's names, if the cert is the wrong one they wil refund part of the fee