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1 Feb 2008 16:24 |
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Thank you.
I am after this family if possible - in 1881 the family are living at: Charles St, Wolstanton. Stoke on Trent.
Joseph Kirkham, abt 1853, crate maker, - father/head wife Anne Kirkham nee Shaw. children: John Kirkham : 1877 Sarah Kirkham: 1878 Issac Kirkham: 1855 Joseph Kirkham; 1883 Lucy Kirkham: 1886.
I have Lucy as she seems to have gone off on her own but have no idea why, she is never with them, but I am looking for the children and family in 1891 and 1901 if possible please. With street name please.
Also if you have the time and its not to difficult, I am after the mother and father Joseph Kirkham and Anne Kirkham nee Shaw in 1871, 1861, maybe if possible 1851 and 1841.
Stoke on Trent seems to be where they are all born, area's coming up are newcastle, wolstanton.
Any really, I am grateful for any information.
Thank you.
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1 Feb 2008 16:28 |
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census 1891 KIRKHAM, Joseph Head Married M 39 Gate Maker KIRKHAM, Annie Wife Married F 36 KIRKHAM, John Son Single M 14 Apprentice Crate Maker Wolstanton Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Fanny Daughter F 11 Scholar Kingsley Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Joseph Son M 8 Scholar Wolstanton Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Isaac Son M 6 Scholar Wolstanton Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Lucy Daughter F 4 Wolstanton Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Hannah Daughter F 3 Wolstanton Staffordshire KIRKHAM, Thomas Son M 1 Wolstanton Staffordshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 2153 Folio: 65 Page: 14 Registration District: Wolstanton Sub District: Wolstanton EnumerationDistrict: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Margarets Civil Parish: Wolstanton Municipal Borough: Address: Charles Street, Wolstanton County: Staffordshire
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1 Feb 2008 16:35 |
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Here's Lucy in 1901
1901 England Census about Lucy Kirkham Name: Lucy Kirkham Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Burslem Ecclesiastical parish: Cobridge County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 134 Household Members: Name Age Lucy Kirkham 14 Mary Myatt 26 Martha Salmon 35
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1 Feb 2008 16:39 |
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Possible death record for Joseph, the father.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Joseph Kirkham Name: Joseph Kirkham Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Year of Registration: 1916 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 64 District: Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 154
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1 Feb 2008 16:41 |
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Hi and thanks to both of you.
I have the marriage and death certs thank you, most kind of you to have looked though. Cheers.
Its the census info I am missing, thanks :-)
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1 Feb 2008 16:45 |
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Possible record for Thomas Kirkham, residing at the Bradwall Reformatory School.
1901 England Census about Thomas Kirkham Name: Thomas Kirkham Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Gender: Male Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Bradwall Ecclesiastical parish: Elworth St Peter County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Congleton Sub-registration district: Sandbach ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153
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1 Feb 2008 16:47 |
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1901 England Census about Hannah Kirkham Name: Hannah Kirkham Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Chasetown, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Manor Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Cecilia Clark 2 John A Clark 33 Martha Clark 33 Violet Clark 4 Naomi Hell 70 Hannah Kirkham 14
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1 Feb 2008 16:50 |
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I stand corrected unless Hannah was listed twice.
1901 England Census about Sarah Wood Name: Sarah Wood Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Arthur Gender: Female Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolstanton Ecclesiastical parish: St Margarets Town: Wolstanton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Wolstanton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Fanny Kirkham 23 Hannah Kirkham 19 William Kirkham 21 Arthur Wood 28 Arthur B Wood 7 months Sarah Wood 25
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1 Feb 2008 16:53 |
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Hi and thank you, I am getting confused now, are these family ? or does she work for them? or just visiting ? as I have no idea who wood is,
The joseph Kirkham when 25 is that the 1861 census? thanks
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1 Feb 2008 16:59 |
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Hello Nicola,
After researching a marriage between Sarah Kirkham and Arthur Wood--don't think that's the famly above in 1901.
Joan
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1 Feb 2008 17:07 |
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Its ok, I thought it was me, as I feel like I am going around in circles with this family, been working on them for nearly 2 years, so glad that is him in 1861, never knew his mother was named that, that is brilliant, thank you ever so much for them, cheers, feel like its christmas all over again now. :-)
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1 Feb 2008 17:14 |
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Nicola,
There are two families in the same area which I think is confusing all of us. We need to take a closer look at the actual date of birth.
Exact Search Results - 1881 England Census You searched for Fanny Kirkham born in England Refine your search Fanny Kirkham William, Fanny abt 1861 May Bank, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolstanton, Staffordshire View Record
Fanny Kirkham Joseph, Ann abt 1880 May Bank, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolstanton, Staffordshire
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1 Feb 2008 17:20 |
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My Kirkham family is the Lucy one, her sister fanny was born about 1880. Once Lucy leaves home she never returns back home. Lucy's dad is defo named Joseph Kirkham who was a Crate Maker, it says this on her Marriage cert which I got today. They were living in Newcastle area, which includes wolstanton. May Bank is on the outskirts of Newcastle, so 50/50 there. Lucy never spoke of any family apart from Fanny she even named a daughter after her, As you can imagine as a child hearing this name I thought it was funny, thats why I remember her being spoken of. Apart from that and the cert I dont have much else. If its way to hard then I understand and I shall come back when I have more, I dont mind as you have given me loads to work on and thats fab. :-)
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1 Feb 2008 17:46 |
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This family is a hard one, the story gets worse after 1901, ha ha. Thats why its taken me so long to get this far.
But, the good news is, the above are not my family, I would say the Francis one is, as they shorten that name to fanny, her daughter even though not born fanny, its her middle name I think, goes by the name Fanny, she has a daughter named francis but calls her fanny and Lucy had a daughter named Francis and called her fanny. So I think its a safe bet the family you fount william and francis are the correct ones, willing to bet money on that one, ha ha. :-)
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1 Feb 2008 17:52 |
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Just fount this on the IGI
Christening: 13 JUN 1852 Wolstanton, Stafford, England
Mother - Francis & father William Kirkham, so I think you were correct to start with in the searches. I am so sure of it. wow, :-)
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1 Feb 2008 18:02 |
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There are these 3 children of Joseph & Annie/Hannah/Ann on BVRI:
KIRKHAM, John Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Jun 1876 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: Joseph KIRKHAM Mother: Annie Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
KIRKHAM, Hannah Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 22 Feb 1888 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: Joseph KIRKHAM Mother: Hannah Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
KIRKHAM, William Lovatt Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 22 Jun 1894 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: Joseph KIRKHAM Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
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1 Feb 2008 18:06 |
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Children of William & Frances on BVRI:
KIRKHAM, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 Dec 1848 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: William KIRKHAM Mother: Frances Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
KIRKHAM, Joseph Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 13 Jun 1852 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: William KIRKHAM Mother: Francis Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
KIRKHAM, Hannah Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 1 Apr 1866 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Father: William KIRKHAM Mother: Fanny Source: FHL Film 1517617 Dates: 1691 - 1905
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1 Feb 2008 18:17 |
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yes I have him as a crate maker not gate maker, maybe its a spelling mistake with gate? does it say who the adams are? Also on the original does it say 25? if his estimated birth is around 1852ish
Think I am confusing myself now, lol.
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1 Feb 2008 18:25 |
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Do you have this?
WOOD, John Age: 25 Marriage Wife: Fanny KIRKHAM Age: 20 Marriage Date: 19 Apr 1900 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Husband's Father: John Bradley WOOD Wife's Father: Joseph KIRKHAM Source: FHL Film 1517618 Dates: 1849 - 1903
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1 Feb 2008 18:29 |
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This one's William's daughter, Fanny:
WILKINSON, John Age: 25 Marriage Wife: Fanny KIRKHAM Age: 25 Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1902 Recorded in: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England Husband's Father: James WILKINSON Wife's Father: William KIRKHAM Source: FHL Film 1517618 Dates: 1849 - 1903
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