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Hi can any one help I am trying to trace ancesters of Percy Ovenden 1898 he lived in Mirfield west yorkshire. Think he had relatives in Kent cheers Sue

Hi thankyou, I am doing this as my father in law is not so well and he really wants to trace his relatives. Where do I go from here Sue

Sue, what do you want to do? Do you want to go further back or do you want to get certificates to be certain these are your people?

Ozi.

As you can see there is also this Percy Ovenden c1898 from Kent.

1901 England Census
Name: Percy R B Ovenden
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Fannie L
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 13 Bradstone Avenue

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ovenden 46 - ships or shops smith [Difficult to read as it's been scribbled over.]; b. Sandgate
Fannie L Ovenden 42 - b. Folkestone
Edwin L B Ovenden 16 - carpenter's apprentice
Eue G B Ovenden 15 [Eric} - smith's apprentice
Violet R B Ovenden 12
Ivy E B Ovenden 10
Harry T B Ovenden 8
Rose H B Ovenden 6
Percy R B Ovenden 3
Arthur C B Ovenden 1

& there's this family who could be relatives too.

1901 England Census
Name: Percy Ovenden
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son [Now who's son he is is difficult to know as Elizabeth snr is 76. I've listed the family exactly as they are on the image & Elizabeth jnr is out of sequence so I think Percy could be her son.]
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: Plaistow St Mary
Town: Bromley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 14 Warner Rd

Occupation: Improver

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 297
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ovenden 76
Dick Ovenden 31 - bricklayer
Emma Ovenden 28 - dressmaker
Elizabeth Ovenden 38 - cook
Percy Ovenden 16
Jane Lathern 78 - boarder

Hi just spoken to father in law and he has traced percy's parents they are henry and mary (nee) barker Percy was born in 1904 he had 3 sisters Annie Doris and Elizabethj,so back to the drawing board Sue

Well this certainly looks like them. There's also the Yorkshire connection.

1901 England Census
Name: Henry Ovenden
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 45 Back of Collingworth St

Occupation: Blacksmith at Wollen Mill

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ovenden 32
Mary Ovenden 32 - b. Thornhill
Elizabeth Ovenden 10 - b. Thornhill
Annie Ovenden 8 - b. Ravensthorpe


I bet Percy was spoilt when he came along.

Brilliant this is the ones we are looking for where do I go from here Sue

Well it depends how deeply you want to go into this. I can trace Henry & Mary further back in the censuses.

People usually like to get the birth/marriage/death certificates. You can find their bmd's on freebmd.com. These are only the indexes & you have to order the certificates from the GRO using the references from the index.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Ozi.

I can't find Henry in 1891 at the moment but I'll go back & search for him later. Meanwhile ...


1881 England Census
Name: Henry Ovenden
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornhill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 24 Prospect Place

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Thornhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Ovenden 56 - coal miner; b. Basely
Elizabeth Ovenden 53 - b. Earlsheaton, Yorkshire
Sarah Ovenden 24 - dressmaker; Thornhill, Yorkshire
Henry Ovenden 12
Henry John 11 [He is actually John Ovenden on image]; Thornhill, Yorkshire
George Asquith 69 - lodger

how far can you go back? I dont know how people manage to find details out so quick! Sue

I can go back to 1841, the first useful census with names. You have to have a subscription to Ancestry to access these censuses.

1871 England Census
Name: Henry Ovenden
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornhill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Thornhill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Combs Rd

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Thornhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Ovenden 41 - coal miner
Elizabeth Ovenden 43
Sarah Ovenden 15
Henry Ovenden 2
John Ovenden 1
George Asquith 58 - boarder


There is also this family on the same page.

1871 England Census
Name: Martin Ovenden
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornhill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Thornhill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Combs Rd

Occupation: grocer & draper

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Thornhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Ovenden 35
Mary Ovenden 38
Fred Ovenden 7

This is what I mean by an index on freebmd.


After you've put your search information in you get a list of possibilities. When you click on your choice you get something like this.

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
Ovenden Henry Dewsbury 9b 1081

Click on the page number, in this case 1081 & you get this.

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
BAKER Mary Dewsbury 9b 1081
Jackson Tom Dewsbury 9b 1081
Nichols Samuel Dewsbury 9b 1081
Ovenden Henry Dewsbury 9b 1081
WADSWORTH Elisa Dewsbury 9b 1081
Wadsworth Eliza Dewsbury 9b 1081


You get a list of people entered on the same page as your man. Here you know his wife, Mary Baker/Barker - mistakes can be made. If ordering the cert you need the reg'n info to get it for £7. Don't pay more.


Don't worry about the 99%, that's just to give you an idea that all the transcriptions for that section are done. Freebmd never put 100%. All transcriptions are done by volunteers & they've transcibed the indexes since registration began in 1837 to the late 1910s & are still at it!

1861 England Census
Name: Daniel Ovenden
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Staincliffe

Occupation: coal miner

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Ovenden 36
Elizabeth Ovenden 33 - Earls Heaton, Yorkshire
George Asquith Ovenden 6 - Batley
Sarah Ovenden 5 - Batley


So George Asquith in later censuses is probably not only a boarder but Elizabeth's father.


Marriages Mar 1853
...>>>ASQUITH Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 557
HEPWORTH Abraham Dewsbury 9b 557
MARRIOTT Jemima Dewsbury 9b 557
...>>>OVENDEN Daniel Dewsbury 9b 557

1851 England Census
Name: Daniel Ovenden
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Gorge
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Staincliffe

Occupation: coal miner

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Morley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Gorge Ovenden 45 - coal miner; Batley
Mary Ovenden 53 - Mirfield
Daniel Ovenden 25
John Ovenden 19 - coal miner
Martin Ovenden 15 - coal miner
Richard Gledhill 60 - lodger
William Hopkinson 23 - lodger
Harriett Hopkinson 23 - lodger
Larissa Hopkinson 4 - lodger
Emma Hopkinson 1 - lodger

1841 England Census
Name: Daniel Ovenden
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Staincliffe

Occupation:

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Batley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Ovenden 35 - coal miner
Mary Ovenden 40
George Ovenden 8
Daniel Ovenden 15
John Ovenden 10

The censuses & registration start within a few years of each other. If you want to go further back than that the next step is the IGI. If you go to the 'Tips Board' (link is on the left-hand-side of this page) the first message is an excellent one about the IGI.

I'll now go to look for Henry in 1891.

Here's his mother & younger brother, or is this Henry? I'll look for John in 1901.

Update: looking at this image again, John is single. So this is the younger brother with his mother & sister-in-law, Mary. So where is Henry. Image has Mary as married. I can't find Henry at all.

1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Ovenden
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Earls Heaton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornhill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Thornhill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Prospect Place, Combs

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Thornhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ovenden 64
John Ovenden 21 - postman
Mary Ovenden 22 - daughter-in-law
Elizabeth Ovenden 4/12 - grandaughter

Hmmm. ???

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
OVENDEN John Dewsbury 9b 634

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Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
Ovenden John Dewsbury 9b 664

Marriages Jun 1893
Gearing Martha Dewsbury 9b 1063
...>>>Hobson Elizabeth Ann Dewsbury 9b 1063
Lawton Benjamin Dewsbury 9b 1063
....>>>Ovenden John Dewsbury 9b 1063


1901 England Census
Name: John Ovenden
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornhill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Town St

Occupation: Inspector of Postmen

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Thornhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
John Ovenden 31
Elizabeth A Ovenden 32