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Hi Tracey,

It IS Joseph H but I don't know about Bristol - It is a long way away?

I think we ought to wait until John comes back - he really needs to send for the marriage cert so we can be sure we have the correct one.

OOOOpps - I have just noticed above that Mary's brother Joseph H (according to Brenda's posting) probably died soon after birth so no point searching for him then (bless!).

Dea x

It would be nice if the people who post messages repied to those try to search for information. It is so frustrating after spending sometimes hours, and get no acknowledgment of your efforts.

That's me getting it off of my chest.


Vioctor

John, I hope that you have good luck with finding your family.

I am still at a loss trying to find my grandfather.My mum is now 79, so we are talking 1928 ish. But my grandparents never married.
All I have is a name, an occupation, an approximate area of Glasgow,and his father's occupation.
Mum still asks if I have been able to find out what became of her father.
Counless emails have lead to brickwalls.

Wishing you well.

Gail

Dea,

Nothing comes up for Joseph Gailes, i do get a match for Joseph H Gales a gentleman living in Bristol... if you think it'll help you i can send you his details.

Tracey

John,

Do you have a copy of your birth certificate,,,?

It appears the surname was Gailes...Mary, married John Ward,1938 July/Sept GRO marriage index -10a 746,Durham,

If the marriage Brenda gave is the correct one (which is probable, it would seem that we do not need to look for Margaret Gales and brother John.

It is more probable that Mary Gailes parents were Walter George Gales + Ann Henderson (they married Tynemouth Dec. 1906 ref 10b 518)

Of course, there are 2 other names on the same page in the Register, so I am 'presuming' this Ann married Walter as I can find no other possibility
Children of this couple would probably include:
Mary Gailes mmn Henderson - Lanchester 10a 529 - Sept. Q 1917 (which someone has already posted)

+ possible brother - Joseph H Gailes mmn Henderson b Lanchester 10a 727 - Sep Q 1914.

Maybe Tracy could kindly find some Electoral Roll info on Joseph H ?

We really need to get confirmation from John Ward's marriage cert first or we will be following the wrong people?

Dea x

John good luck to you.Keep smileing.I am thinking of you all the best.
Victoria

This looks like the death index for John Gales senior.

Name: John Gales
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1920
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1985
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Durham Central
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 908

or

Name: John Richardson Gales
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 1992
Age at death (estimated): 72
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 2
Page: 1873

I have found a John Gales living in Durham on the 2008 Electoral Roll, however he is only 46? could possibly be the son of the John you are looking for.

I have PM'd you the details, i cannot post them here because it is living person data.

Tracey x

I just wanted to wish you good luck, I've been searching for mine for years + adopted siblings and found one!

My mum vanished (never came back) 1963.

Take care and never give up.

John,

Having checked through all John Ward marriages 1936 - 1941 it would seem that the marriage which Brenda (Moody Blue) has found for you above is the only possible so I believe it would be worthwhile for you to send for this certificate.

"Still looking" has posted instructions for you above on how to do this.

The cert would tell you ages and occupations for Mary and John and should also give name and occupation of both of their father's so that we can then trace the correct families back.

Once we are sure we have the correct families, we can then try to trace them forward and perhaps find other family members and details which may help you.

Do you know of any other names within the family?

Were there any other children of this 'short' marriage

Any other details you have may also help connect.

Dea x

P.S. - If you order the cert ONLY put John Ward's name in NOT Mary's as the name Gales / Gailes is spelt differently and so they may not send the cert if you put the wrong spelling !!!!!!!!!

Dea x

Lynne/John

This is what you will need if you want to buy any birth/marriage or death certificates.
You can buy them online for £7.


Births quarter 3 (July aug Sep) 1919
Gales John
Mothers maiden name 'EVANS'
Registration district>>Durham
Volume>10a
Page>796
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If you want to buy a BMD cert, here
is the addy where you can buy it online..

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

(tip)Never pay more than £7
(another tip) for a marriage,you only need
put one partners name when ordering.

If you are ordering online from the GRO,
make sure that when the form asks
"Is the full GRO reference known?"
that you tick the "yes" box.

Dear Dea... what does 10a796 refer to? John

Dear Dea, thanks for all your help so far. My fathers name was John Ward and I think they married round
about 1938. How should we proceed from here?
John.

Thanks Barbara... round about 1938. my fathers name was John Ward,a miner. Any help appreciated. John

This COULD be your grandparents marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1915
Evans Mary Durham 10a 930
Gales William H Durham 10a 930

Dea x

She seems to have had a brother John

Births Sep 1919
Gales John mmn Evans Durham 10a 796

Dea x

I think it may be this lady?

Births Mar 1917
Gales Margaret mmn Evans Durham 10a 701

Dea x

Could we have a little more info please - your father's name perhaps, and do you know when they married?

Dea x

John do you know if Molly is her real name or a nickname? If it isn't do you know when she married your father then we can look for the marriage to find out her real name?

Barbara

try googling the name you may find something