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16 Jun 2008 17:40 |
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61 71 census lookup plz for this family below on 51 census 566 20 67 William PICKERING Head Widr M 64 Farmer occupg. 44 acres LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Thomas PICKERING Son M M 32 do Son LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Hannah PICKERING Daur in Law M F 32 Domestic Duties - Wife of Thos. LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 John PICKERING Son U M 30 LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Elizabeth PICKERING Daur of Thos. U F 5 LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Mary PICKERING Daur of Thos. U F 3 LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Eliza PICKERING Daur of Thos. U F 8m LEI Ashby Rabbit Warren - Woodville 566 20 67 Fanny BAILEY Serv U F 14 Servant DBY Hartshorne Rabbit Warren - Woodville --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks
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16 Jun 2008 17:45 |
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1861 England Census about William Pickering Name: William Pickering Age: 74 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Rabbit Warren, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Ashby de la Zouch ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Pickering 10 Elizabeth Pickering 16 Emma Pickering 7 Hannah Pickering 42 Hannah Pickering 3 John Pickering 40 Mary Pickering 12 Thomas Pickering 42 William Pickering 74 William Pickering 1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2270; Folio: 71; Page: 29
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16 Jun 2008 17:46 |
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1861?
ame: Elizabeth Pickering Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Rabbit Warren, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Ashby de la Zouch ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Pickering 10 Elizabeth Pickering 16 Emma Pickering 7 Hannah Pickering 42 Hannah Pickering 3 John Pickering 40 Mary Pickering 12 Thomas Pickering 42 William Pickering 74 William Pickering 1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2270; Folio: 71; Page: 29
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16 Jun 2008 17:46 |
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1871 England Census about William Pickering Name: William Pickering Age: 84 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Father Gender: Male Where born: Ashby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville Town: Ashby de la Zouch County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Ashby de la Zouch ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 256 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Canner 4 visitor Eliza Pickering 20 Elizabeth Pickering 45 Hannah Pickering 13 John Pickering 50 Thomas Pickering 52 William Pickering 11 William Pickering 84
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3249; Folio: 31; Page: 55
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16 Jun 2008 17:50 |
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1861 census Rabbit Warren, Ashby de la Zouche, Woodville, Leicestershire William Pickering, head, widower, 74, farmer of 50 acres, born Rabbit Warren John, son, single, 40, born Rabbit Warren Thomas, son, married, 42, born Rabbit Warren Hannah, son's wife, 42, born Ashby Elizabeth, grandau, 16 Mary, grandau, 12 Eliza, grandau, 10 Emma, grandau, 7 Hannah, grandau, 3 William, grandson, 1 Grandchildren all born Rabbit warren.
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16 Jun 2008 18:05 |
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thanks all for the help
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16 Jun 2008 18:10 |
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on 71 census portugal did it give who elizabeth 45 married to i have her married to john ??????
also thomas wife on 51 census had she died by or before 71
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ChristineinPortugal
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16 Jun 2008 18:25 |
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It gives Elizabeth as wife of Thomas and she is listed directly under him. So Hannah must have died and he remarried.
John is listed at end of family and brother to Thomas the head of household. It doesn't give John's marital status.
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16 Jun 2008 18:30 |
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These are from free bmd
Deaths Sep 1869 (>99%)
Pickering Hannah 49 Ashby Z. 7a 52
Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%) Boardman Thomas Ashby Z 7a 125 Macdonald Sarah Ashby Z. 7a 125 Pickering Thomas Ashby Z 7a 125 Smith Susannah Ashby Z. 7a 125
No Elizabeth listed though.
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16 Jun 2008 18:52 |
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thanks for looking
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16 Jun 2008 18:59 |
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i know that john married in 1859 newhall derbyshire to a eliza maybe 71 is mistranscrbied and elizabeth should be johns wife and thomas did re marry one of the above you found christine
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ChristineinPortugal
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16 Jun 2008 19:38 |
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John is on the 1861 still at home and single, do you have the marriage cert from 1859 giving his father?
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Sarah
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16 Jun 2008 20:42 |
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i dont have the marriage cert this below is what one of my contacts sent me JOHN PICKERING Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM PICKERING Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ELIZA SHAKESPEAR Family Marriage: 07 NOV 1859 Saint Johns, Newhall, Derby, England Husband Age at Marriage: 19 Wife Age at Marriage: 19
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16 Jun 2008 22:23 |
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That marriage must be a different family as your John was born c1821 and the one whose marriage details you have just posted was born c1840.
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Sarah
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16 Jun 2008 22:30 |
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thanks christine
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17 Jun 2008 11:07 |
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christine heres my begining of pickerings
elizabeth pickering b 1878 woodville married a fred howkins (my g grandad) in 1900 ashby de la zouch
elizabeth parents were willoughby pickering b 1842 blackfordby and the above john pickering is one of his brothers so by what youve said could john have been born earlier in 1821 and still be willoughbys brother ?????
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ChristineinPortugal
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17 Jun 2008 12:07 |
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This is Willoughby's family in 1851, the family you posted at the start of your lookup is a completely different family.Both have a John but one age 11 and one 30
1851 England Census about William Pickering Name: William Pickering Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Newbold in Worthm, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Measham ED, institution, or vessel: 5g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Pickering 47 Elizabeth Pickering 14 Hannah Pickering 14 James Pickering 4 John Pickering 11 Mary Pickering 19 Wellinghby Pickering 8 William Pickering 49 William Pickering 17
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2084; Folio: 559; Page: 7;
Mistranscribed as Picking
1851 England Census about William Picking Name: William Picking Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Ashby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Ashby de la Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Measham ED, institution, or vessel: 5g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Fanny Bailey 14 Eliza Picking 8 Mo Elizabeth Picking 5 Hannah Picking 32 John Picking 30 Mary Picking 3 Thomas Picking 32 William Picking 64
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2084; Folio: ; Page: 20;
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17 Jun 2008 13:47 |
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thanks christine so the john im looking into is the one aged 11 which would be willoughbys brother
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ChristineinPortugal
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17 Jun 2008 18:47 |
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Yes thats right. Here he is 1871/1901
1871 England Census about John Pickering Name: John Pickering Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Blackfordby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Hartshorne Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville Town: Hartshorne County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Hartshorn ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Pickering 28 John Pickering 30 John Pickering 9 Mary Pickering 6 Mathew S Pickering 4 months William Pickering 2
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3244; Folio: 45; Page: 19
Looks like Eliza died and he remarried
1881 England Census about John Pickering Name: John Pickering Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Clara Gender: Male Where born: Blackfordby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Hartshorn County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Millfield St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Clay Miner Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Hartshorn ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Clara Pickering 40 Emma Pickering 5 Gertrude Pickering 4 John Pickering 41 John Pickering 19 Mary Pickering 16 Matthew J. Pickering 10 Minnie Pickering 7 William Pickering 12 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3138; Folio: 76; Page: 30;
He didn't have much luck with his wives.
1891 England Census about John Pickering Name: John Pickering Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Blackfordby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Hartshorne Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville Town: Woodville County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Sub registration district: Hartshorn ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eunice Pickering 15 Gertrude Pickering 14 John Pickering 51 widower John Pickering 27 Matthew T Pickering 20 Minnie Pickering 17 William Pickering 22
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2509; Folio 80; Page 27;
1901 England Census about John Pickering Name: John Pickering Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Blackfordby, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Woodville Ecclesiastical parish: Woodville St Stephen Town: Woodville County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Ashby De-la-Zouch Sub registration district: Hartshorn ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Gertrude Pickering 24 John Pickering 61 John Pickering 38
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2969; Folio: 99; Page: 2.
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