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my husbands family come from leeds his mothers name was lillian mary and her mother was ann elizabeth riley as i am tracing the family tree i do not no if thay are relateded to yours

Melanie;
This is very interesting, If I am understanding it Walter Hickson was married to Elizabeth and had caroline, then by the 1861 census he appears to have left Elizabeth for his neighbour, another Elizabeth, but 20 years his junior, and took caroline with him, and from what you have found out Caroline may have took on the surname of her fathers new partner, but who claims to be his housekeeper !!!!!
This is fascinating, and I am very gratefull to you.

Regards

Matt

Melanie,
This is the one,

many thanks

Matt

Have you thought of looking for some of these people yourself on the 1881 census? It is completely free at www.familysearch.org

And finding them yourself is so much more rewarding..................

Tracey/ Melanie

Thomas Riley was born circa 1889
Elsie Hudson born 1891(believed to have died in Highroyds asylum,Nr Wakefield, year unknown)

Alfred Hudson (father of Elsie) Bn 1852
and Caroline Hickson, Wife of Alfred, Bn 1853

The marriage certificate also shows me that Alfreds father was called John (yeast dealer) and Carolines father was called Walter Hickson (Porter)

Thanks,

Mathew...

If you have the marriage certs, can you please post their ages.....

You have already been told we cannot help you further without knowing this data...

....all we can do is guess, which isn't the right way to do things...!!

Tracey

Reggie/ Maureen;

Thankyou for your help, as you have probably gathered I am new to this and quickly realising the complexity and fascination of it.
Iam now in possession of some marriage certs.
Thomas Riley married Elsie Hudson on 20-02-1915, His father Henry Riley is shown as deceased. Elsies father Alfred married a Caroline Hickson on 2-6-1873, His father was a John Hudson, and Caroline's father - Walter Hickson, all of Leeds, The journey continues,

many thanks

Matt

Marriage..from freebmd!

Name: Thomas Riley
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Hudson
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 501
Elsie Hudson

You will have to buy the marriage cert, to find out how old they were.............and their fathers' details

Can't look for them in 1901 without knowing their Y O B, at least

The results from freebmd.........with MMN Hudson

Alfred Riley 1918 Jan-Feb-Mar Hudson Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Amy Riley 1917 Jan-Feb-Mar Hudson Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Caroline Riley 1920 Apr-May-Jun Hudson Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Thomas Riley 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Hudson Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
Walter Riley 1924 Oct-Nov-Dec Hudson Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding

If only you'd given us all the info in the first place..........

Being vague is not helpful.............

JFM 1927 Leeds, 9b/652
RILEY Christopher, MMN Hudson

Same details for ELSIE

Reg

Matt,

Your request was not very clear.

I read it originally as the couple might have been married by the 1890's and not that was their approx years of birth.

Have you got any of the birth certs?

No idea how we can find an Elsie born 1890 ish without knowing a surname or the name and occupation of the father.

If one child was born 1926 then she could have been born after 1901

Why did you not include that information in your original request?

Maureen

Many thanks to you all for your help,
All the children were born after 1901 (Christopher I do know was born 03-12-1926) I have guessed Thomas and Elsies year of birth at 1890.
as you say Sonny was actually Thomas and Carrie was Caroline, There was another e
Elsie who was the twin of Christopher (therefore born 03-12-1926) who died aged 3

thankyou all once again for your help

Regards

Matt

Sonny and Carrie are probably diminutives........any idea of the actual names?

Born when?

Born where?

Have you worked backwards.......checking every stage.......to arrive at these names?

1901 I keep looking at this one

Name: Emma Riley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas A
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Armley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bramley
Sub registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Laura Ashton 15
Elsie Riley 5 months
Emma Riley 30
Thomas A Riley 30 Leeds



Wrong wife, wrong birth place for Thomas


Are you saying that they were married by the 1890's ?

Do you have any idea if any of the children were born before 1901?

Where have you got your information from?

Hello,

Thanks for the replies, I believe it was around the 1890s They lived around the LittleLondon area of Leeds, Their children were, Sonny, Carrie, Leslie, Walter, Christopher and Elsie.

Many thanks

Matt

Please remove your e-mail details....contravenes GR guidelines...........

Matthew....

When??

Tracey

Hello

I am researching the Riley family. I have limited information at present. What I do know is I have a Thomas Riley (believed to be born in Ireland) and married Elsie (Leeds)
Long shot I know, but thanks anyway

regards