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I started the Brereton link just above this and was curious, so I read these posts. My Brereton family were from Northwich, Cheshire, and John and Hannah lived in Angel Meadow (Nicholas Street) Manchester in 1841. John was a sawyer and died in 1847, the family descending to the depths of poverty including the workhouse in the 1850's. My ancestor John, son of the sawyer, did well and ran a hardware shop in Gravel Lane across the river. Charles Brereton just might be a relative. Did you get the marriage certificate, and if you did could you post the details?
Thanks,
Geoff

This looks like a possibility on 1841, though Charles is not yet a Police Officer? - I will follow him and see if he 'joins the Force' later:

1841:
Charles Brereton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Deansgate
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Brereton 30 Labourer?? - Not born in County
Margret Brereton 30
Mary Brereton 1 Mo - Census taken 6th June - therefore born April/May ?

Living at Sutton Court


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 570; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 43; Folio: 25; Page: 6; Line: 13; GSU roll: 438722.

Source Information

Dea x

I thing I have saved you one cert:

Marriage: 15 Aug 1858 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
George White - 20 Glass maker bachelor of Eccleston
Mary Brereton - (X), 18 spinster of Eccleston
Groom's Father: James White
Bride's Father: Charles Brereton, Police Officer
Witness: Edward Owen; Bridget Fleming
Married by Banns by: Francis L Horsham
Register: Marriages 1854 - 1860, Page 171, Entry 342
Source: LDS Film 1657597 item 2


Dea x

Just a suggestion !

I have a few Brereton's attached to my family and they all seem to originate in Cheshire rather than Lancashire (It's only 'down the road, after all !'

Also, it was very common for people from both Lancashire and Cheshire to marry in Manchester Cathedral as it was cheaper! - If they married in a 'local' church, they would have to pay that Church and also the Cathedral fee!

You may wish to consider the Cheshire area?

Dea x

To all who have helped in the search for Mary Brereton

Many thanks to you all

To Dea for suggesting Eugenia-----I go for that!!
To Jenna for marriage results---something to concentrate on
To Derek ----------Charles and Margaret have cropped up again. I will apply for certs. in due course
and
To Barbara------------Another good possibility(probability)
It has been fun(to quote you Derek)
And thank you all, again
Joan

I believe Mary's middle name is Eugenia .

Dea x

OOOpps - that was the 1842 one - you don't want her !!

Dea x

if charles and margaret are the parents, theres this marriage

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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Birchenough Mary Manchester 20 551
>>>BRERETON Charles Manchester 20 551
Craig Martha Manchester 20 551
Croston John Manchester 20 551
GUEST Benjamin Manchester 20 551
>>>LARGE Margaret Manchester 20 551
SHEPHAND Agnes Manchester 20 551
SMITH Elizabeth Manchester 20 551

Me again..Been looking at IGI..the only Mary brereton that fits is baptised 02.06.1841..Cathedral Manchester.Parents Charles and Margaret.
Get the marriage certificate!!
Derek

Hi Joan.......if we accept Charles and Margaret as the parents of Mary Brereton, then I can tell you that in 1841 they were living in SUTTON COURT Manchester, and Charles aged 30 was a Labourer.
Unfortunately I cannot find this couple on any subsequent Census entries.
Neither can I find their marriage on the Lancashire BMD's....but they may have married before 1837, in which case its into Parish registers.........and the first Mary Brereton mentioned on Lancashire Births was born 1845!
I really think the only way to nail this is,and someone else said..is via the Marriage of Mary and George. If you go to lancashire BMD's, and scroll down to lancashire Births Marriages andDeath's..thats the free one! You can find the marriage (C5/3/336) and download the Application form and send it off.Will cost you £7.00
Good luck
Derek
Derek

1841 census (only Mary Brereton in Lancashire)

Name: Mary Brereton
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Deansgate
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Brereton 30
Margret Brereton 30
Mary Brereton 1 Month

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 570; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Manchester; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 43; Folio: 25; Page: 6; Line: 15; GSU roll: 438722.

Thanks again Derek

You must have been right about the birthdate being inaccurate.
I am now determined to get to see the 1841 and also look at later censuses, to follow up the parents.
My keenness is because I want to know where, in Manchester they were living, Looks like I am in with a chance. Thanks again
Joan

Thanks Jenna

The Mary _iginer 1892 is the one I had decided on prior to my letter and that is why I had ruled out the 1841 census for help.I wonder what the half name really is. I see it is just about unreadable on the copy of the registration image.
I'll have to get the cerificate, I think,
Put it on the agenda!!
Thanks again
Joan

You're right silly me!! Hoist by my own rules!! What fun this is!!
Derek

if i remember correctly, theres a mary t brereton on the 1861 census too which would rule that one out

HiJoan....My two possibilities are....Mary Brereton b c1841 Manchester.parents Charles and Margaret.and..on the 1851 Census Mary T brereton..aged 8..daughter of William and Jone ..that's how its spelt!! Both born manchester

Derek

if you dont have it already heres the reference for the marriage

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
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Brereton Mary Prescot 8b 786
White George Prescot 8b 786

only 2 births that i can see that could be possible

Births Dec 1842 (99%)
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BRERETON Mary _iginer Manchester 20 535


Births Jun 1843 (>99%)
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BRERETON Mary Smith Manchester 20 674

Thank you Derek
That is worth a look
As you say dates were not always reliable so I may have a chance.
I will look at 1841 when I go to the library.
Thanks again
Joan

You are looking for a mary Brereton who appears ONLY on the 1851 Census...becasue by 1861 she'll be there uinder her married name. This cuts the options down to only about TWO possibilities as far as i can see. She might be on the 1841 census as a small baby if the dates of her birth are as unreliable as they usually are!!
Hope this helps
Derek

To Lindylu

Thanks for that, Lindylu, for some unknown reason, I had not thought of that.
It's so long since I got a new name to research that I must have lost the habit!
Thank you again
Regards
Joan