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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:10 |
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........................................................... Hezikiah Smith b c1849 ...........................................................
Cannot find relevant birth for Hezikiah Smith (Market Drayton District) on freebmd but have a birth and christening on IGI. Can find a birth for Robert Smith ??
1851 C Hezikiah Smith .. Age 1 .. born: Mucclestone, Salop Living with family: Dorrington, Salop
1861 C Robert Smith .. Age 11 .. born: Muxton, Salop (other name for mucclestone) Living with same family: Aston, Mucclestone
1871 C Robert Smith .. Age 17? .. born: Mucclestone, Salop Living with same family: Aston, Mucclestone
1881 C Robert Smith dissapears and Hezikiah reappears Hezikiah Smith .. Age 32 .. born: Pipegate, Staffordshire **Pipegate is in the parish of Mucclestone and in later census' he says Pipegate, Salop.
Whenever Robert appears I can't find a definate Hezikiah When Hezikiah appears I can't find a Robert
Is this the same person ?????
Do you think he was registered Robert and they changed it to Hezikiah but gave his 'official' name for census' till he left home?
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:19 |
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Do You have a marriage for this person?
Nicky
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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18 Aug 2008 11:19 |
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did he marry ,if so what was his name on the cert
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:26 |
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I can`t find Hezikiah Smith on the 1881 in either Salop or Staffordshire..... who are they living with?
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:27 |
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He married as Hezikiah
Dec sec 1874 (6a 1459)..Market Drayton.
I don't have the certificate.
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Melanie
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:29 |
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In 1881 C
'HEYIKIAH' Smith 16 Cleaves Row, Pontefract, Yorkshire Living with wife Charlotte
Other family members moved to Pontefract at the same time who were miners.
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:29 |
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Is this him in 1901?
Hezekiah Smith Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Pipe Gate, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Audley Ecclesiastical parish: Chesterton Holy Trinity County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newcastle under Lyme Sub registration district: Audley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 249 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Smith 46 Hezekiah Smith 51 Thomas Smith 25 View Original Record
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:30 |
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Hi Nicky .. yes that is him.
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:31 |
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Purchasing the marriage cert. may help......you may find out if he has a middle name...possibly Robert? Or Thomas birth cert.? that will confirm the name of his father....
Nicky
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:37 |
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Thanks Nicky
Think thats what I'm going to have to do and take a gamble it's him.
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:39 |
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I think there may be 2 Hezekiah/Hezikiah Smith born around the same time, in a similar area...
Hezekiah Smith Year of Registration: 1851 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Stourbridge County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire Volume: 18 Page: 495
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:48 |
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Yes that's the only birth I can find for Hezikiah but it just doesn't feel right and is the wrong district.
I just can't understand why in 1861 a Robert 11 appears and Hezikiah 11 isn't there ?
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 11:50 |
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Is this the same person in 1861?.....as hes a little old to be the one born in 1851....I`ve checked the image ,the age is definetly 11.
Ezekiah Smith Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Pipe Gate, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Maerway Lane County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme Sub registration district: Whitmore ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Adam Foxley 11 Ann Foxley 8 Edwin Foxley 3 Emma Foxley 6 Martha Foxley 44 Samuel Foxley 47 Sarah Foxley 16 Thomas Foxley 18 William Foxley 14 Ann Gorton 16 Ezekiah Smith 11 Nicky
Also noticing 2 different spellings HEZEKIAH and HEZIKIAH.
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 11:59 |
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Hi Nicky
Thanks for that I didn't have that possible census for him .. I do hope that all my work later on with Hezikiah is going to turn out to be wrong.
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Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 12:03 |
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Is this not him in 1871....
Hezekiah Smith Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Maer County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme Sub registration district: Whitmore ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age Ann Meakin 23 Thomas Phillips 18 Ann Salt 16 Hezekiah Smith 21 Thomas Smith 21 image reads just Salop Mary Ward 27 Thomas Ward 25 Nicky
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 12:09 |
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Here he is with parents in 1851, if he was one by the 1851 census, he definetly isn`t the one on the birth reg .I gave you before.
Hezikiah Smith Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Mucclestone, Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Dorrington County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Market Drayton Sub registration district: Moreton Say ED, institution, or vessel: 5b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Smith 3 Hezikiah Smith 1 John Smith 9 Mary Smith 6 Sarah Smith 33 Thomas Smith 40 Nicky
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 12:12 |
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The 1851 census is the one I know for definate and have worked forward from this as Sarah Smith (his sister) is my Gt Grandmother.
He was christened 16 DEC 1849 Mucklestone, Stafford.
Have to go out for a while now so please don't think I am being ignorant not replying.
Thanks for your help.
Melanie
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 12:22 |
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Heres the 1891 census for him..... I think that means you have them all now?
Hezekiah Smith Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Pipegate, Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Wolstanton Ecclesiastical parish: Silverdale St Luke Town: Silverdale County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wolstanton Sub registration district: Wolstanton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Smith 35 Hezekiah Smith 41 Occ. Coal ? Thomas Smith 15 Occ. Pit Boy Nicky
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Nickydownsouth
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18 Aug 2008 12:31 |
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All these children have parents Thomas and Sarah Smith, they could all be possible siblings of Hezekiah.
: Smith, British Isles Father: Thomas , Mother: Sarah Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C010262 [refine search] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 7 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. ALFRED SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAY 1847 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 2. MARY SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 30 MAY 1843 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 3. BASSETT SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 17 AUG 1856 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 4. JOSEPH SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 04 MAY 1845 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 5. HEZEKIAH SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 DEC 1849 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 6. JOHN SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUN 1841 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 7. ROBERT SMITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 07 MAR 1852 Mucklestone, Stafford, England
Nicky Notice the brother called Robert,a little younger than Hezekiah, think thats where you may have got mixed up.
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Melster
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18 Aug 2008 13:49 |
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Hi Nicky
Where on earth did you find the information about the christening dates for the other children ?!
I have been on IGI and put them in individually and the only one with any results is Hezikiah and when I click on family it just brings up his parents names with no siblings.
Thanks very much for that .. it means that Roberts age is wrong on the 1861 census which is what has thrown me.
Thanks very much
Melanie
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