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Is this the same person ? .. Confused

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Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:10

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Hezikiah Smith b c1849
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Cannot find relevant birth for Hezikiah Smith (Market Drayton District) on freebmd but have a birth and christening on IGI. Can find a birth for Robert Smith ??

1851 C
Hezikiah Smith .. Age 1 .. born: Mucclestone, Salop
Living with family: Dorrington, Salop

1861 C
Robert Smith .. Age 11 .. born: Muxton, Salop (other name for mucclestone)
Living with same family: Aston, Mucclestone

1871 C
Robert Smith .. Age 17? .. born: Mucclestone, Salop
Living with same family: Aston, Mucclestone

1881 C
Robert Smith dissapears and Hezikiah reappears
Hezikiah Smith .. Age 32 .. born: Pipegate, Staffordshire
**Pipegate is in the parish of Mucclestone and in later census' he says Pipegate, Salop.

Whenever Robert appears I can't find a definate Hezikiah
When Hezikiah appears I can't find a Robert

Is this the same person ?????

Do you think he was registered Robert and they changed it to Hezikiah but gave his 'official' name for census' till he left home?

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:19

Do You have a marriage for this person?


Nicky



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Aug 2008 11:19

did he marry ,if so what was his name on the cert

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:26

I can`t find Hezikiah Smith on the 1881 in either Salop or Staffordshire..... who are they living with?


Nicky.

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:27

He married as Hezikiah

Dec sec 1874 (6a 1459)..Market Drayton.

I don't have the certificate.

Thanks

Melanie

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:29

In 1881 C

'HEYIKIAH' Smith
16 Cleaves Row, Pontefract, Yorkshire
Living with wife Charlotte

Other family members moved to Pontefract at the same time who were miners.

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:29

Is this him in 1901?


Hezekiah Smith
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Pipe Gate, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Audley
Ecclesiastical parish: Chesterton Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
Sub registration district: Audley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 249
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 46
Hezekiah Smith 51
Thomas Smith 25


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Nicky

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:30

Hi Nicky .. yes that is him.

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:31

Purchasing the marriage cert. may help......you may find out if he has a middle name...possibly Robert? Or Thomas birth cert.? that will confirm the name of his father....


Nicky

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:37

Thanks Nicky

Think thats what I'm going to have to do and take a gamble it's him.

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:39

I think there may be 2 Hezekiah/Hezikiah Smith born around the same time, in a similar area...

Hezekiah Smith
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 495



Nicky

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:48

Yes that's the only birth I can find for Hezikiah but it just doesn't feel right and is the wrong district.

I just can't understand why in 1861 a Robert 11 appears and Hezikiah 11 isn't there ?

Thanks

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 11:50

Is this the same person in 1861?.....as hes a little old to be the one born in 1851....I`ve checked the image ,the age is definetly 11.

Ezekiah Smith
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Pipe Gate, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Maerway Lane
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub registration district: Whitmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Foxley 11
Ann Foxley 8
Edwin Foxley 3
Emma Foxley 6
Martha Foxley 44
Samuel Foxley 47
Sarah Foxley 16
Thomas Foxley 18
William Foxley 14
Ann Gorton 16
Ezekiah Smith 11


Nicky


Also noticing 2 different spellings HEZEKIAH and HEZIKIAH.



Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 11:59

Hi Nicky

Thanks for that I didn't have that possible census for him .. I do hope that all my work later on with Hezikiah is going to turn out to be wrong.

Thanks again

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 12:03

Is this not him in 1871....


Hezekiah Smith
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Maer
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub registration district: Whitmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Meakin 23
Thomas Phillips 18
Ann Salt 16
Hezekiah Smith 21
Thomas Smith 21 image reads just Salop
Mary Ward 27
Thomas Ward 25


Nicky

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 12:09

Here he is with parents in 1851, if he was one by the 1851 census, he definetly isn`t the one on the birth reg .I gave you before.

Hezikiah Smith
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mucclestone, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Dorrington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Smith 3
Hezikiah Smith 1
John Smith 9
Mary Smith 6
Sarah Smith 33
Thomas Smith 40


Nicky

Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 12:12

The 1851 census is the one I know for definate and have worked forward from this as Sarah Smith (his sister) is my Gt Grandmother.

He was christened 16 DEC 1849 Mucklestone, Stafford.

Have to go out for a while now so please don't think I am being ignorant not replying.

Thanks for your help.

Melanie

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 12:22

Heres the 1891 census for him..... I think that means you have them all now?


Hezekiah Smith
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Pipegate, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Silverdale St Luke
Town: Silverdale
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 35
Hezekiah Smith 41 Occ. Coal ?
Thomas Smith 15 Occ. Pit Boy

Nicky

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2008 12:31

All these children have parents Thomas and Sarah Smith, they could all be possible siblings of Hezekiah.


: Smith, British Isles
Father: Thomas , Mother: Sarah
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C010262
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1. ALFRED SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAY 1847 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

2. MARY SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 MAY 1843 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

3. BASSETT SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 AUG 1856 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

4. JOSEPH SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 MAY 1845 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

5. HEZEKIAH SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 DEC 1849 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

6. JOHN SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUN 1841 Mucklestone, Stafford, England

7. ROBERT SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 MAR 1852 Mucklestone, Stafford, England




Nicky

Notice the brother called Robert,a little younger than Hezekiah, think thats where you may have got mixed up.


Melster

Melster Report 18 Aug 2008 13:49

Hi Nicky

Where on earth did you find the information about the christening dates for the other children ?!

I have been on IGI and put them in individually and the only one with any results is Hezikiah and when I click on family it just brings up his parents names with no siblings.

Thanks very much for that .. it means that Roberts age is wrong on the 1861 census which is what has thrown me.

Thanks very much

Melanie