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29 Sep 2008 00:46 |
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can any one help with the following, lost siblings!! HAROLD S JOHN OXLEY 1895 BRITTIAN H OXLEY (sometimes spelt Britton) 1891 NERUDA OXLEY born 1897 married peter hall emigrated to US no dates im afraid ETHEL OXLEY 1893 married 1915 frederick wilkinson., married 1920 Joseph Lilley alos emigrated to us OLGA MAY OXLEY born 1900 married 1920 John Ryan emigrated to South Africa MONA LEANOR OXLEY born 1898 emigrated to Canada MABEL STANLEY OXLEY 1903 DIED 1969 THEIR PARENTS JOHN OXLEY 1866 ( think seaton sluice) AND JANE ELLEN B STANLEY 1866 (Bedlinton colliery),married 1885 would love to trace their parentage Northumberland/ Tynemouth areas Big ask I know had some help on other thread .Thank you very much
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29 Sep 2008 02:41 |
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There's this but yours was Neruda Florence.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Neruda Jaqueline Hall Name: Neruda Jaqueline Hall Arrival Date: 23 Aug 1920 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Age: 24 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Southampton, England Ship Name: St Paul Search Ship Database: View the St Paul in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York, New York Line: 15 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: T715_2819 Page Number: 233 Rose
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29 Sep 2008 02:48 |
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Births Jun 1891 Oxley Britton Hastings S Tynemouth 10b 236
Marriages Dec 1919 Newby Cecilia Oxley S.Shields 10a 2141 Oxley Brittain H Newby S. Shields 10a 2141
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29 Sep 2008 03:40 |
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1891 England Census about Britton H Oxley Name: Britton H Oxley Age: 1/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Whitley, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Whitley Ecclesiastical parish: Cullercoats St Paul Town: Whitley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Britton H Oxley 1/12 Jane Oxley 25 John Oxley 35 Joseph R Oxley 4 Stanley G Oxley 21 Stanley T Oxley 5
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29 Sep 2008 03:49 |
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1871 England Census about J E B Stanley Name: J E B Stanley Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Seaton Sluice, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Hartley Town: Seaton Sluice County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Earsdon ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Jane Stanley 29 J E B Stanley 5 R B Stanley 2
Not far from where I live.
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29 Sep 2008 03:52 |
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1881 England Census about Jane B. Stanley Name: Jane B. Stanley Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Earsdon, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Hartley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Main St Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Ag Lab & School Cleaner Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Earsdon ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane B. Stanley 39 Jane E. Stanley 15 Ralph Stanley 12
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29 Sep 2008 04:04 |
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View Record Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image View Record Thomas Dixon 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Castle Ward Northumberland View Record Annie Marley 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Castle Ward Northumberland View Record Catherine Ann Nicholson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Castle Ward Northumberland View Record Ralph Britton Stanley 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Castle Ward Northumberland
Possible for Ralph B Stanley. Marriage
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29 Sep 2008 04:17 |
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1901 England Census about Brittian H Oxley Name: Brittian H Oxley Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Jane G Gender: Male Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York Ecclesiastical parish: Holgate St Paul Town: York County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: York Sub registration district: Micklegate ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 210 Household Members: Name Age Brittian H Oxley 10 Ethel Oxley 8 Harold Oxley 6 Jane G Oxley 25 Mona Oxley 3 Nevada Oxley 4 Olga Mary Oxley 11 months Randolph Oxley 2
This has Brittians birth place different to the 1891 census, checked his mothers P.O.B and its Billington Colliery Northumberland.
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29 Sep 2008 15:53 |
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Thank you so much hobbity , I think that it is the same Brittain , and WHITELY Tyne and Wera has been taken as Whitby yorks, I guess an interpretation error .
I am trying to order Jane eb and Mabel oxley (her youngest daughters birth cert so I can go further. But phones are too busy and online also.
Jane had three younger children born I think 1901 Joe 1902 Stanley (bachelor) and 1903 Mabel(my grandmother)(found her birth record). But will have to wait for 1911 census to become available.
Am Interested to know what became of her husband John between 1895 and 1901.
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29 Sep 2008 16:01 |
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Portland Rose thank you Neruda J hall seems to match as she married in 1920 I believe, I didnt know Nerudas middle name was Florence though.
The Ralph B Stanley born 1900 is he Ralph elders son ?
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29 Sep 2008 16:13 |
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Hoobity, Please can you help re 1891 census for Britton H Oxley , when i search this (and others listed )under this site keeps coming up not found
I just wanted to know what relation to head of house hold and what employment details were listed for Joseph R Oxley, Stanley G Oxley amd Stanley T Oxley Thanks everso
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29 Sep 2008 17:52 |
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Father...John...Coal miner...b.Seaton Sluice. Wife...Jane...b.Billingham. Son...Stanley G...b.Durham, Hebburn. All other children too young for work and listed as son of John, but Stanley G doesn't seem right does it, maybe he was Johns brother and lodged with them. It doesn't have a job listed for him either. They lived at 1 Duke Street, Whitley, Monkseaton, Northumberland.
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29 Sep 2008 18:06 |
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I have checked the actual image for the 1901 census and it is def Yorkshire, all of them born there except Jane G? who is born Billington could be Billingham and Ethel who is born Cullercoates which is next to Whitley Bay as it is very near to me so I know this. We have to remember that the person taking the census could only put down the info provided by the person who told them that info, maybe whoever it was wanted it to look like they were born in Yorkshire and not Northumberland or they didn't see what difference it made, (god if only they knew, lol). Again no-one is old enough to be in work and Jane is listed as a widow so not sure where any income is coming from. Address is 31 Lincoln Street, Micklegate, York.
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29 Sep 2008 18:50 |
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I would think Ralph B Stanleys marriage is Janes brother.
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29 Sep 2008 19:07 |
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Here's Neruda's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1920 Oxley Neruda J S. Shields 10a 2320 to Peter Hall.
Birth:
Births Sep 1896 OXLEY Nerada Florence Tynemouth 10b 228
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29 Sep 2008 21:39 |
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thanks again everyone Hoobity I was leaning toward Stanley G Oxley being John's bother and Stanley T and Joseph R being his sons Otherwise Jane would have ended up with Three Stanleys and 2 Josephs!! lol. It is a funny coincidence that Stanley is Janes family (maiden name ) and is poss in Johns family Also If Jane is listed as a widow in 1901 another family "mystery" as she had Stanley, Joseph and Mable Oxley after this 1901 1902 and 1903. This is a recuring theme in my family Mabel Stanley Oxley had 5 children all surnamed Frost but no record of marriage .
RE the Yorkshire / Northumberland thing, what got me started thinking along those lines was that Ethel on this site was listed at Cullercoats Northumberland but Harold , and I think I other as Cullercoats Yorkshire Alos Jane G I think is Jane E whose records sometimes show Billingham and sometimes Bedlington Colliery , which I am told are near one another.
Its all very interesting and thank you so much for your attention .
Thank you Rose for Nerudas middle name , another piece in the puzzle .
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30 Sep 2008 09:18 |
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I'm not too sure where I might expect to find a Seaton Sluice birth registered. I know Seaton Sluice is in the par of Earsdon, but Earsdon is listed under both Tynemouth and Morpeth. However, looking up John Oxley 1851-61 in FreeBMD turns up nothing for Morpeth, and for Tynemouth:
Births Mar 1855 (>99%) Oxley John Tynemouth 10b 151 Births Sep 1855 (>99%) Oxley John Tynemouth 10b 97
In the census, there's another John pob=Wallsend (which is also in Tynemouth) with a similar age. The DUR BT for Wallsend (image 654 of 739) has: bp 30/9/1855 John Son of Richard and Mary Ann Oxley, Abode=Wallsend, Trade=Trimmer, JF Hodgson Curate
Although a March bp would have settled our problem much more clearly, I'm inclined to think John from Wallsend is the 1855q3 rego.
In 1901, Jane is listed as M=Married, not as a widow.
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30 Sep 2008 10:24 |
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Just checked again the 1901 census and Jane is listed as Head but married, not sure where I got her as widowed now.
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30 Sep 2008 11:43 |
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In 1901, did find a married John Oxley of the right age living away from his wife. However, on the downside, he's living 80 km away, and his landlady has given his pob as Knaresborough. He's also not working as a miner, but as a general labourer, although this is more neutral downsidewise.
1901 England Census Civil Parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda Town: Middlesbro County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 38/39/40 Bridge St Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 91A
Margaret A McClure 38 Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England Head W Lodging House Keeper ... plus 5 McClure kids, and abt 3 dozen boarders, including: John Oxley 46 Knaresboro, Yorkshire, England Boarder M General Labourer
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4574; Folio: 147; Page: 16.
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1 Oct 2008 07:50 |
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Re the 1901 pobs: for Mona, the listing is Yorks, Whit[b|le]y St Pauls. I don't know the churches in either area, but I do note the parish on Hoobity's 1891 listing is "Cullercoats St Paul". The two younger children are just dittoed from Mona.
The two older sons can also be found in 1901 at Adel cum Eccup, Yorks: Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4060; Folio: 34; Page: 5.
I also took a more detailed look at BMD entries.
Re Jane's bro Ralph, whom Boobity found 1871/81:
Births Mar 1866 (>99%) STANLEY Jane E B Morpeth 10b 319 Births Dec 1868 (>99%) STANLEY Ralph Britton Morpeth 10b 308
However, it looks like Ralph has a recycled name:
Births Dec 1861 (>99%) STANLEY Ralph Britten Tynemouth 10b 173 Deaths Mar 1868 (>99%) Stanley Ralph Briton 6 Morpeth 10b 204
I also came across the following family, who have similar names, but no other connection that I know of:
Births Mar 1858 (>99%) Stanley Thomas Brittain Tynemouth 10b 146 Local: LBN16/321
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%) Nicholson Mary Ann Tynemouth 10b 198 Stoves Ann Tynemouth 10b 198 Taylor Tom Tynemouth 10b 198 [Stanley George Britton Tynemouth 10b 198 - FreeBMD correct 30/9/08]
1861 England Census Civil Parish: Longbenton Town: Dudley Colliery and Weetslade County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 6 Middle Row Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Longbenton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 74
George Stanley 24 Earsdon, Northumberland, England Head M Coal Miner Ann Stanley 24 West Moor, Northumberland, England Wife M Thomas Stanley 3 Benton, Northumberland, England Son
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3846; Folio: 39; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543195.
Finally, the most likely marr for Jane Snr seems to be: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%) Bower Sarah Tynemouth 10b 246 Miller George Tynemouth 10b 246 Moore Jane Tynemouth 10b 246 Stanley Joseph Tynemouth 10b 246
It might be worthwhile to try checking this out.
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