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Need some help please - I am trying to go backwards and am not sure I am on the right track.

This is what I have so far -

1. Maurice Charles Leonard Tapping born Nov 1928
(His parents - George Robert Tapping & Esther Colbourne)

2.I have George Robert Tapping's birth certificate -
Lambeth Oct 1895
(His parents - Robert William Tapping & Mary Jane Denford)

3. I have Robert William Tapping's birth certificate -
St George Hanover Square Oct 1867
(His parents - William Tapping & Emma Fox)

4. I have the marriage certificate of William Tapping to Emma Fox -
St Mary, Newington, Surrey - Jun 1865)

Both residing at Cole St., Newington

William's father - Caleb Tapping (Wainwright)
Emma's father - William Fox (House decorator)

Witnesses - Robert Fox & Mary Ann Fox (not yet sure where they fit into how they are related to Emma??)

Now this certificate has I must admit thrown me into confusion as I thought that William's parents were John Tapping & Fanny Sheperd(ley)!!!

Help me please to understand.

Thanks

Nicki

Can anyone, find father & son,Caleb & William (together) on any census returns?

Nicki

Hi Nikki
This info may be a total red herring.

The only William that I can find born c1831 in Hertfordshire was the son of Joseph & Mary Ann. I think that Joseph was the son of a Caleb. If you do a parent search on the IGI for children of Joseph & Mary Ann in Hertfordshire you will find 7 children baptised at St Andrew Hertford. Isaac and Caleb (twins) have the middle name Fox. Possible marriage for Joseph Tapping and Mary Ann Fox on 19th Apr 1829 at St Saviour Southwark.(IGI)
Hertford in the 1841 census on Ancestry appears to be missing but it is covered on findmypast but I don't have a sub to look at the details.Joseph/Mary and 6 children listed at Hertford.
Later census gives Mary Anns birthplace as Enfield Middx c 1806
Later census also shows some of the Hertford born Tappings living in Paddington/Newington.
Moggie

Moggy thanks,

1841 for ref -

TAPPING, Joseph M 39 1802 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Mary F 38 1803 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Chas M 11 1830 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Willm M 9 1832 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Caleb M 4 1837 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Isaac M 4 1837 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Mary F 2 1839 Hertfordshire
TAPPING, Albert M 0 (3 months) 1841 Hertfordshire
ROUNDTREE, Sarah F 52 1789
ROUNDTREE, Sarah F 16 1825
MOSS, Martha F 12 1829 Hertfordshire



RG number:
HO107 Piece:
447 Book/Folio:
2/41 Page:
19

Registration District:
Hertford Sub District:
Hertford EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Andrew Municipal Borough:
Hertford Address:
St Andrew Street, St Andrew, Hertford County:
Hertfordshire



It is the Newington Tappings that I am interested in.


So why would they have Caleb listed as William's father on the marriage certificate?



Nicki

Hi Nikki
What was Joseph's occupation in 1841?
Moggie

1841

Joseph's occupation - Wheelwright.

Nicki

Hi Nikki
I must admit I had to do a search to find out that a wainwright was a wagon maker.Wagons need wheels possible link.
I can't explain why William would have given his father's name as Caleb if it was Joseph.
It might be worth following the other male Tappings through the census to see if they had any visitors, nieces, nephews living with them that may be connected to William and Emma.
Moggie

Hi Nikki
WOW Guess who was living at Cole St Newington in 1861?
Caleb & wife Frances
Moggie

Am now totally lost.

Nicki

Caleb and Frances still at Cole St in 1871 so there must be a connection.
Moggie

I wonder if Joseph Tapping was actually born Caleb Joseph Tapping?

Who knows!!

Nicki

IGI

CALEB TAPPING
Male

Birth: 31 JAN 1807

Christening: 25 AUG 1822 Saint John And All Saints, Hertford, Hertford, England




Parents:
Father: CALEB TAPPING
Mother: ANN

Hi Nikki
I just found that one but Caleb & Ann (the parents) also had a Joseph born 18th Apr 1804. The plot thickens
Moggie

omg!! - how confusing!!

Can you find Joseph on the 1851? Findmypast does not hold that?

Thanks

Nicki

But then -!!??

Deaths Mar 1844


TAPPING Joseph Hertford 6 427

Yes that must be him because Mary is a widow in 1851.
NBI entry Joseph Tapping buried 11th Feb 1844 age 39 at Hertford St Andrew.
Moggie

Thanks Moggie. Can you post Mary on the 1851 for me

Thanks

Nicki

1851 Hertford St Andrew
Mary Ann head widow age 45 chair woman or char woman born Enfield Middx
Caleb son age 14 errand boy
Isaac son age 14 errand boy
Mary dau age 11 scholar
Albert son age 9 scholar
Joseph son age 8 scholar
All children born Hertford.

Moggie

Thanks again.

Where is William? Are you able to establish where he is on the 1851 census?

Nicki

In 1851 William age 20 is down as servant/groom at 2nd stable Warwick Place Mews in St Geo Hanover Sq.
This address came under the Belgravia district and the Belgravia district is missing from the 1861 census which is possibly why I can't find him.
Moggie