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I think you may find this is Tom/ Thomas. In the 1871 he is Tom so he seems to alternate between the two! But the marriage certificate will confirm.


1861 England Census
about Thomas Dyson
Name: Thomas Dyson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Brotherton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brotherton
Town: Brotherton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Knottingley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dyson 47 stone mason, b Brotherton
Mary A Dyson 38 wife, b Womersley
George Dyson 21 son, stone mason, b Brotherton
Sarah M Barter 12 daughter to wife, b Womersley
Charlotte M Dyson 12 daughter
Thomas Dyson 8 son
John Dyson 7 son
Annie Dyson 2 son

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Liz

Hi to all the girls who helped me with Ann and Hannah Lamb from beaghall. I have just found out who the young Tom Dyson was Hannah had him before she married Thomas Dyson as he came up as Lamb born 1876. so i can get his cert. to
Harold

Hi Julie. it never crossed my mind, i was trying to convince myself that i had seen a marriage for a tom dyson and hannah, as I had dismissed them because i could'nt find them on the census.
I have to Thank all you wonderful girls for being so helpful. I think you are all Brilliant. "and i hope you are alright Julie I would'nt like to think I had inadvertently upset you as you girls are to precious to us all.
God Bless
Harold
P.s I will need more help with other Members of the family

The marriage i put on for Dyson/Lamb was from BMD site, i never made it up

But to know if she is your lady you'll need to cert to check if Dads name matches

That look good. I have just been on BMD site, looking for the name Hannah instead of anna, and it appears she did marry a tom Dyson, so would this the be same Thomas Dyson? How come he got married under the name tom, I thouht you had to give full particulars on marriges,birth and deaths. Now I come to Wonder who is young Tom's parents. it doe'nt appear to be listed.

Perhaps Ann/ Annie came home on the death of her father to look after her mother, who died soon after?

Name: Charles Lamb
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 64
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 67




England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Elizabeth Lamb
Name: Elizabeth Lamb
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 60
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 56



Liz

Here is Hannah/ Anna in 1881. The other one maybe Ann, perhaps she fibbed about her age.


1881 England Census
about Hannah Dyson
Name: Hannah Dyson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Beal, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Beaghall
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Knottingley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
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Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dyson 27 bricklayer, b Brotherton, Yorkshire
Hannah Dyson 27
Walter Dyson 3
Geoge Dyson 2
Annie Dyson

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Is this annie in 1871 and 1881 the same girl? What happen to Hannah? She must be somewhere.

The family in 1871 but both Ann and Anna are missing:
1871 census
Beal, Yorkshire
Charles Lamb, head, 49, labourer
Elizabeth, wife, 43
Jane, dau, 20, domestic servant
Mary, dau, 14
Joseph, son, 13
William, son, 6
John, son, 1
All born Beal except Elizabeth born Hensal.

are theses two girls both called annie? How confussing is that. doe's that mean neither of them got married !!

1881 for Annie?


1881 England Census
about Annie Lamb
Name: Annie Lamb
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Beil, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Headingley Cum Burley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Regent Park Terrace
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Cook (Dom)

Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household Members:
Name Age
William Bray 37
Emma Bray 33
Emily M. Bray 6
Edith T. Bray 3
Chas. J. Saul 28
Harriet A. Preston 30
Annie Lamb 27
Elizh. Y. Emery 17

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Liz

That is ann and anna's parents

1861 census
Beaghall, Yorkshire
Charles Lamb, head, 39, ag lab
Elizabeth, wife, 33
Ann, dau, 11
Jane, dau, 9
Anna, dau, 7
Mary, dau, 5
Joseph, son, 3
All born Beaghall except Elizabeth born Hendall.

What was ann's occupation?

Yes Tom was with an annie on the 1891 census. it said nephew. How did you find ann? I have been looking for these two girls all week

I don't know yet, he was on the 1871 census with the girl's parents, and i did look for a marriage for a tom dyson and he married a hannah lamb but I can't find any Tom and Hannah on the Census.

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Dyson Tom Pontefract 9c 105
Lamb Hannah Pontefract 9c 105

The clue was Tom with Ann on the 1891

Possible for Ann. Beaghall was known as Beaghall and Beale seemingly.

Beal Or Beaghall Tn/CP was a Civil Parish in the counties of Yorkshire (Ancient) and West Riding (Poor Law/Registration), in England. It was also known as Beaghall and Beal. It was part of Castleford RegD (30 May 1862-1 Jan 1868); Great Preston GilU (until 1869); Pontefract PLU/RegD (1869-1930); West Riding; Osgoldcross Wap; Osgoldscross RD (1938-1974); Pontefract RD (1894-1938); Knottingley; Pontefract RSD; and Kellington AP/CP.
from http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp?u_id=10397480.



1871 England Census
about Ann Lamb
Name: Ann Lamb
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Beate, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Potter Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: Chapeltown
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
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Household schedule number: 343
Household Members:
Name Age
James Duncan 29
Jane Duncan 29
John F Duncan 3
Katherine F Duncan 2
James M Duncan 1
Farilie R Forrester 30
Jerrie Adams 21
Ann Lamb 21 general domestic servant

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Who's son is Tom

can;t find one for Ann,but it said on the 1891 and 1901 census she was single and I don't know if Anna would be under the name of Hannah or anna.