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So is William Hawes Nodes the undertaker whose name was recorded in the cemetery records in 1851 as 'H Nodes' of Robert St, Chelsea? Not by William Nodes's address in the 1851 Census. In which case, who is the 'H Nodes' of Robert St? Doug in Melbourne, Australia

David, I remember meeting William Nodes and his wife Marie, when I was a child. They were visiting my mother's cousin. I didn't know then that he was related to me. He was rather a jolly type of man, and not what you would expect an undertaker to be. I understand from my late mother that William Nodes went to Sandringham in 1952 to lay-out King George VI. They appear to have been a high-class firm of undertakers. Susan

Catherine, the death of Mary Ann Powell Schrier is 26.1.1874 at Wades Place, Mile End Old Town. She was my gr.gr.grandmother, and I have the death certificate. The one you thought might be her is a sister-in-law. The Schrier family all seem to come from John Schrier c1780, Shadwell, and he was father to Samuel c1810 and father-in-law of Mary Ann Powell Schrier. I found an entry in the London Gazette which mentions Mary Ann's Will, where she has named her daughter Catherine Mary Ann Nodes and daughter Henrietta Elizabeth Robinson as executors in her will. Catherine being the wife of William Nodes and Henrietta the wife of Henry Arthur Robinson. Its amazing what you can find sometimes. Susan

Wiiliam Nodes was the Funeral Director for my grandmother when she died in 1957.

Possible marriage for parents:-
OLIVER NODES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 04 DEC 1804 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
Spouse: ELIZABETH HAWES

which would account for middles name "Hawes"

from ancestry:-
Name: Oliver Noades
Spouse Name: Elizabeth
Record Type: Marriage by Licence
Event Date: 4 Dec 1804
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

1841 England Census about William Nodes

Name: William Nodes
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Mary Islington West
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Occupation: Undertaker

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nodes 25
Harriett Nodes 20
Oliver Nodes 4
Sarah Nodes 10 Mo

Name: William Hawes Nodes
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 7 Sep 1814
Father's Name: Oliver Nodes
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nodes
Parish: St Giles in the Fields, St Giles High Street, Holborn
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex

Profession: Undertaker
Chapel Street, Tottenham Court Road, St. Pancras



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about William Hawes Nodes
Name: William Hawes Nodes
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 63
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 206

For the Nodes family:-

Name: William Hawes Nodes (Bachelor)
Spouse Name: Harriet Richardson (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 May 1836
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden

In the presence of H. Brittain and Grace (looks like) Richardson)


On IGI, only one child showing for this couple:-

OLIVER NODES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 MAR 1837
Gender: Male Christening: 19 NOV 1837 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Father: WILLIAM NODES
Mother: HARRIET

MARY ANN POWELL ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Age at: 1yr.
Father: WILLM. ROBINSON
Mother: ELIZTH.

other christenings, St. Dunstan with same parents so possible siblings:-
ELIZA ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

WILLM. GEORGE ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAR 1807
Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1807 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

Couldn't find a marriage on IGI but did find these on ancestry:-

Banns:- on the 5th, 12th and 19th May

Name: Samuel Schrier
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Powell Robinson
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 19 May 1833
Parish: St John at Hackney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney

Marriage:-
Name: Samuel Schrier (Bachelor)
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Powell Robinson (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Jun 1833
Parish: St John at Hackney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney

were married in this church by Banns
In the presence of :- Jonathan Schrier
and (looks like) Mr Jackson


This one was on the same page, but I think you have this already, but never mind here it is again:-
Name: Catherine Mary Ann Schrier
Age: Minor
Spouse Name: William Nodes (Mercantile Clerk)
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Dec 1864
Parish: St John of Jerusalem
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Samuel Schrier (Rope Manufacturer)
Spouse Father Name: William Howes Nodes (Furnishing Undertaker)
In the presence of;- Thomas Robinson Schrier
William Hawes Nodes
M A Schrier

1841
Name: Samuel Schrier
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Rope Maker

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Schrier 30
Maryann Schrier 30
Thomas Schrier 7
William Schrier 5
Robert Schrier 3 Mo
Caroline Hunt 16

WILLIAM DAVID SCHRIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 AUG 1836 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Father: SAMUEL SCHRIER
Mother: MARY ANN

HENRIETTA ELIZABETH SCHRIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 DEC 1845
Christening: 20 MAR 1861 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Father: SAMUEL SCHRIER
Mother: MARY ANN POWELL

only these two are showing on IGI

This looks to be your family in 1851:-

Name: Kat Mary Ann Schrier
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Powell
Gender: Female
Where born: M E O Town, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Powell Schrier 48 born: Ratcliffe, Middlesex
(Cocoa Matting and Twine Manufacturer)
Thomas Robinn Schrier 17 born: St Pauls Shadwell, Middlesex
William Davis Schrier 14 born: M E O Town, Middlesex
Robert Sam Schrier 10 born: M E O Town, Middlesex
Kat Mary Ann Schrier 7
Henrietta Elizh Schrier 5 born: M E O Town, Middlesex
Sarah Bird 19 - Servant


Possible death for mother:-
Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%)
Schrier Mary Ann Whitechapel 2 459

The district Whitechapel spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex
Reg. district for :- Mile End New Town

Janet, sometime ago you helped me with my Nodes family search. I have now found the marriage registration on the parish records for William Nodes and Catherine Mary Ann Schrier. They got married 30.12.1864 at the Parish Church of South Hackney. It shows the father of Catherine as Samuel Schrier, a rope manufacturer, and as he had been deceased in 1849, Catherine's brother Thomas Robinson Schrier was shown as a witness. So I am 100% certain that this Catherine who married William Nodes was the daughter of Samuel and not Jonathan. Susan

Susan, if you think Catherine may have been mistaken with her father's name, I would be inclined to get her birth cert. I have included another vaguely interesting birth, maybe a relation? That name was bound to cause trouble! The problem is you need to contact gro first to get them to check the transcription, though it looks unreadable to me. This is a free service. will try to remember where to ask.

Jan

Births Mar 1844 (>99%)
SCHRER Catherine Mary Ann Stepney 2 _31
Births Sep 1846 (>99%)
Shwerer Catherine Jessey Bermondsey 4 27

EDIT
Here is the email address for checking unclear entries:
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Just give all the info as above

Thanks everyone for helping me with the Nodes family. It has filled in some of the gaps. However, it has also posed a query. Ann of Green Gables says that Catherine Mary Ann Schrier was the daughter of Jonathan Schrier, and it was she who married William Nodes born c1842.
I have Catherine as the daughter of Samuel Schrier c1810-1849 and Mary Ann Powell Robinson. She was the sister of my gr.grandmother, Henrietta Elizabeth Schrier, and appears on the 1851 and 1861 census. The IGI does show a Catherine Mary Ann Schrier born 1844 as the daughter of Jonathan Schrier, but there only seems to be one Catherine born 1st quarter of 1844. I think that maybe she has been wrongly given the father's name as Jonathan. The only way I could find out is if I got the marriage certificate for Catherine and find out who her father is.

CATHARINE ELIZABETH NODES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 FEB 1816 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM NODES Family
Mother: CATHERINE ELIZABETH

1881

Catherine E. NODES Head U Female 65 London, Middlesex, England No Profession
James S. NODES Nephew U Male 10 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Gertrude E. WEBBE Visitor U Female 19 London, Middlesex, England No Profession
George MONK Serv M Male 36 Mitcham, Surrey, England Gardener Dom Serv
Elizabeth CROSS Serv U Female 46 Upton Chatvey, Buckingham, England Cook Dom Serv
Mary A. WOODGER Serv U Female 34 Ripley, Surrey, England Housemaid Dom Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling Gatton Rd
Census Place Reigate Foreign, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341188
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0797 / 79
Page Number 24

1881

William NODES Head M Male 39 Holloway, Middlesex, England Railway Clerk
Catherine NODES Wife M Female 37 Mile End, Middlesex, England
William NODES Son Male 15 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Edward NODES Son Male 10 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Henrietta NODES Daur Female 7 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Margaret NODES Daur Female 3 Bow, Middlesex, England
Mary NODES Daur Female 2 Bow, Middlesex, England
Julia WILLINGAN Servant U Female 22 Stepney, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 97 Woodstock Rd
Census Place Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341335
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1376 / 35
Page Number 63