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Barry

Barry Report 1 Aug 2012 12:01

ChristinaS/Thelma,

You are right. I've now found page 2-silly me!

Thanks for marrage details of my ggrandfather and his siblings and other info.
Appears from fathers occupation that 'my' Annie must have married Richard Joseph Wenham .Had wrong Maria for years-thanks again.

Thelma

Thelma Report 27 Jul 2012 11:33

ChristinaS
I guess that Barry has not found page two.

Thelma

Thelma Report 27 Jul 2012 11:19

You need to check for fathers' occupation on all of Annie's siblings marriages.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Arthur Pearson
Name: Arthur Pearson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Sophia Benfell
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Jun 1884
Parish: Clapham St Paul
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer}
Spouse Father Name: Edward Benfell
Register Type: Parish Register
===================================
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Walter Pearson
Name: Walter Pearson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Spouse Name: Susanna Sheppard
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1893
Parish: Clapham Park All Saints
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer
Spouse Father Name: Benjamin Sheppard
Register Type: Parish Register
=======================================

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Louisa Pearson
Name: Louisa Pearson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Frederick Thomas Aldrich
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Jun 1892
Parish: Clapham Park All Saints
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Pearson (bricklayer)
Spouse Father Name: William John Aldrich
Register Type: Parish Register
====================================


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Henry Pearson
Name: William Henry Pearson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Carlen
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jul 1886
Parish: Clapham Park All Saints
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Pearson (builder)
Spouse Father Name: John Carlen
Register Type: Parish Register




ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 27 Jul 2012 09:41

Just repeating the above as Barry PMed to say he wasn't able to pick the message up.


The Annie Maria Pearson who married in 1881 has her father's occupation as bricklayer.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 26 Jul 2012 17:09

The Annie Maria Pearson who married in 1881 has her father's occupation as bricklayer.

Thelma

Thelma Report 26 Jul 2012 11:59

I believe this is the Annie who married William Okines.
Check the occupation of her father.
=========================================
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Arthur Okines
Name: William Arthur Okines
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Spouse Name: Annie Pearson
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 May 1880
Parish: Battersea St Philip
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Frances Okines
Spouse Father Name: William Pearson (stone mason
Register Type: Parish Register
===================================
1871 England Census
Name: Annie Pearson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Pearson
Mother's Name: Mary Pearson
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 668
Folio: 105
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearson 49 <<<stonemason born Bradford Yorkshire
Mary Pearson 50
Frederick Thos Pearson 20
Ernest Pearson 14
Annie Pearson 11
James Price Pearson 9
==========================

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about William Pearson
Name: William Pearson
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1822
Father's Name: William Pearson
Mother's Name: Esther Pearson




Barry

Barry Report 24 Jul 2012 17:54

Christina-thanks,

Arthur is my ggrandfather-the others his siblings. I agree they were born in Clapham (sub district of Wandsworth).
William Okines and Annie's Ggranddaughter told me they were married 17May1880 at St Philip Battersea-William 27 and Annie 20. In 1881 they were living at 15 London St. , Southwark-1891 Battersea.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 24 Jul 2012 07:12

Barry,

Are you quite certain that Annie married in 1880. Only her siblings William, Arthur, Walter and Louisa all married in Clapham.

There is an Annie Maria Pearson marrying in Clapham in December 1881 to Richard Joseph Wenham. This Annie gives her age as 21, which would be correct for your Annie.

Barry

Barry Report 23 Jul 2012 23:02

Thanks. Sydenham was a sub-district of Lewishem..If she was 8 months at 1861 census she must have been born Sept 1860, but when married May 1880 she was shown as 20 ( when she would have been 19)..Its strange as all else seems to fit.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jul 2012 23:17

The 1861 Census for England was taken on the night of 7 April 1861. All responses were to reflect the individual's status as of 7 April 1861 for all individuals who had spent the night in the house.

Have you eliminated this birth?

Births Sep 1860 PEARSON Anne Maria Lewisham 1d 66_

Barry

Barry Report 22 Jul 2012 22:19

From above I have found out that William and Maria were married at Chingford 1859 and were living at Sydenham in 1861. Their daughter Annie was 8 months. In 1871 it shows Annie age 10 born in Sydenham , Surrey. (the rest of the family were born in Shoreditch , which is correct).
Yet from another souce I have Annie baptised 2/9/1860 at Chingford.
She was 20 when she married 17/5/1880 -so she must have been born before 17/5/1860. Please does anyone know the date of the 1861 Census to prove if Annie was 10 or would she have been 11.

Barry

Barry Report 10 Jul 2012 12:47

Thanks . 1861. Annie 8 months fits with my info. As Mary Ann was a Castleman, Maria Castleman must be the correct Maria. What threw me was birth cert 20/11/62 with address 17 Lucan Place and baptism birth date 27/11/62 with address 17 Newton Place.(as at 1/3/ 1863-date of baptism).
I've another Maria in my tree for more than 5 years!!
1881 Mona is an error.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 6 Jul 2012 15:30

Although Maria Castleman was born Islington in 1837, she was baptised in Lambeth February 1841. At the same time as her sister, Mary Ann, who was born 1841 in Lambeth.

The nieces living with them on the 1861 census are the children of Mary Ann. She married a John Jones. By 1871 John Jones has died, and Mary Ann has moved in with Henry Hitchen, with her 2 daughters.


The date of birth shown on a baptism record is only the date which is given by one of the parents at the time. I'm not saying it was the father who answered this question but .........

Potty

Potty Report 6 Jul 2012 12:59

1911, married 52 years:

Name: Maria Pearson
Age in 1911: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 77 Cornwall Road, Brixton Hill, London S W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 52
Estimated Marriage Year: 1859
Occupation: OLD AGE PENSIONER
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 2106
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearson 73
Maria Pearson 72

Agrees with this marriage:

Marriages Sep 1859
Castleman Maria Epping 4a 55
Francis Emma Epping 4a 55
Massey George Frederic Epping 4a 55
Pearson William Epping 4a 55

Potty

Potty Report 6 Jul 2012 12:55

The Annie in the 1861 is 8 months not 8 years and was born in Lewisham.

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Jul 2012 12:53

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Maria Castleman
Name: Maria Castleman
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Castleman
Spouse's Name: William Pearson
Spouse's Father's Name: William Pearson
Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1859
Marriage Place: Chingford, Essex, England

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Jul 2012 12:45

???
1861 England Census
about Maria Pearson
Name: Maria Pearson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Pearson
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 227
Piece: 417
Folio: 95
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearson 23
Maria Pearson 22
Annie Pearson 8 months
Annie Jones 2
Emma Jones 8 Months
William Castleman 55 <<<<<<< father



AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jul 2012 12:44

William Henry Pearson
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 27 Nov 1862
christening: 01 Feb 1863 SAINT LEONARDS,?SHOREDITCH,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: William Pearson,? Maria


name: William Henry Pearson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Feb 1863
baptism/christening place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 27 Nov 1862
father's name: William Pearson
mother's name: Maria
indexing project (batch) number: C04080-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 396244, 396245, 396246

Potty

Potty Report 6 Jul 2012 12:36

From the 1881, it looks as if Maria had a second name (it is Marie or Maria on the image):

Name: William H. Pearson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Pearson
Mother's name: Mona P. Pearson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: No 3 Hope Terrace Cornwall Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Assistant

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 614
Folio: 118
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearson 43
Mona P. Pearson 43
William H. Pearson 19
Arthur Pearson 17
Walter Pearson 14
Louisa Pearson 12
George Pearson 11
Eleanor Pearson 8
Earnest Pearson 6
Alfred Pearson 2
Charles L. Pearson

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Jul 2012 12:32

William Pearson
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 01 Jul 1838 ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,?STEPNEY,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: James Pearson,? Ann


name: William Pearson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Jul 1838
baptism/christening place: ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
father's name: James Pearson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C00629-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 94697, 94698