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Hi Rita,

I hesitated with this one, it really needs confirming but the only way to do that is to order Samuel and Charlotte Birch's marriage cert. This was on a tree from Ancestry;

Name: Samuel Spours Birch
Birth: 1814 - Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Marriage: 1839 - Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Parents: John Birch, Margaret Spours
Spouse: Charlotte Barnett



This was from the IGI;

SAMUEL SPOURS BIRCH Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 JAN 1819 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN BIRCH Family
Mother: MARGARET


If it is the correct line then this tree will help you when searching the IGI.

Dee x

These are some births/christenings from the IGI, parents are John Barnett and Sarah (Ann);

1. JAMES BARNET - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 FEB 1819 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England

2. WILLIAM GILES BARNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 DEC 1826 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England

3. JOHN BARNITT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1831 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England


James and John tie in with the 1851 and 1841 census.

Living with Charlottes family again;

1841 England Census
about Samuel Birch
Name: Samuel Birch
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Hundred: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kingston upon Hull
Sub-registration district: St Mary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Barnett 20
Mary Barnett 20
Samuel Birch 25
Charlott Birch 20
Elizabeth Birch 2
Mary Birch 1 Mo

I can't see any links to William Morris's parents, going back onto the Birch side though;

1851 England Census
about Samuel Birch
Name: Samuel Birch
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kingston Upon Hull St Mary
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Barnett 55 <<<<<<<<< Charlottes mother.(widower)
Samuel Birch 34 <<<<<<<<, cabinet maker
Charlotte Birch 31
Ann Barnett 20 <<<<<<< Charlottes Sister
John Barnett 22 <<<<<<<<< Charlottes Brother
Elizabh Birch 12
William Birch 3
Thomas Birch 1
Thomas Smith 53 <<<<<<<<< Lodger

William still isn't with his parents.......... thinking you will definately need his marriage and birth cert to confirm who is parents are;

1861 England Census
about William Morris
Name: William Morris
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Poplar All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Swift 43
Sarah Swift 46
John Swift 20
Elizabeth Swift 17
Sarah A Swift 12
William Swift 7
William Morris 10

1871 England Census
about William H Morris
Name: William H Morris
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McGarrell 48
Catherine McGarrell 44
Thomas McGarrell 15
William H Morris 19 <<<<<<<<< labourer (dock)

Possible for William Henry Morris's birth;


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Morris William Henry Hull 9d 179

Margarets birth??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1852 (>99%)
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Birch Margaret Hull 9d 160

Possible marriage for Samuel and Charlotte Birch;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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*********************************Barnett Charlotte Sculcoates 22 468
**********************************Birch Samuel Sculcoates 22 468
CORNWELL Edward Sculcoates 22 468
MANTON Adam Sculcoates 22 468
MOORE Thomas Sculcoates 22 468
POOL Catherine Sculcoates 22 468
SPINK Elizabeth Sculcoates 22 468

A possible for Margarets parents............. note the name Charlotte pops up again;

1871 England Census
about Margaret Birch
Name: Margaret Birch
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 251
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Birch 54 <<<<<<<<<Dock Labourer
Charlotte Birch 50
William Birch 24
Margaret Birch 18
James Birch 16
Sarah Ann Birch 14
John Birch 10
Charlotte Birch 8


All born Hull. Address 4 Stable Yards, Salthouse Lane.


Dee x

Hi Rita,

This could be Lucy's parents marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
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***********************Birch Margaret Hull 9d 474
Ironmonger Sarah Ann Hull 9d 474
***********************Morris William Hull 9d 474
ROBINSON John William Hull 9d 474



Dee x

Probably mistranscribed again;

1891 England Census
about Lucy Norris
Name: Lucy Norris
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston Upon Hull

Civil parish: Drypool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Webster 59
Annie E Sheldon 5
Nelley Sheldon 4
Louisa Sheldon 2
Lucy Norris 16

Possible for Lucy??? Again the marriage cert would confirm her fathers name and occupation;

1881 England Census
about Lucy Morris
Name: Lucy Morris
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H.
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull

Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Salthouse Court
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Morris 29 (General labourer)
Margaret Morris 29
Emily Morris 9
Lucy Morris 7
Charlotte Morris 4
John Eagle 25

From family search (IGI);

THOMAS WELCOME BEAUTYMAN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 FEB 1846 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: PERCIVAL BEAUTYMAN Family
Mother: JANE




What a lovely name.

Dee x

G Grandfathers marriage (minus Thomas!!)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BEAUTYMAN Welcome Hull 9d 280
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JOHNSON Mary Ann Hull 9d 280
KNAGGS Robert Hull 9d 280
Wharton Hannah Hull 9d 280

This is from someone elses tree........... it NEEDS to be checked though;


Name: Thomas Beautyman
Birth: 1868 - Yorkshire, England
Marriage: 1894 - Yorkshire, England
Parents: Thomas Welcome Beautyman, Mary Ann Johnson
Spouse: Lucy Morris



Dee x

There are 2 Thomas Beautyman born the same year in Hull, both fathers are Thomas............ so I think you would need the marriage cert to find out the fathers occupation.

Just looking at the names of Thomas's children pushed me towards this one;

1891 England Census
about Thomas Beautyman
Name: Thomas Beautyman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Off Hull River Humber
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Beautyman 45 <<<<<<,,, general labourer.
Mary A Beautyman 45
Thomas Beautyman 22 <<<<<<<< fisherman
Percival Beautyman 21
Edward Beautyman 18
William Beautyman 4




Dee x

Looks like the family mistranscribed;

1901 England Census
about Thomas Brantyman
Name: Thomas Brantyman
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hull Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Hull St Thomas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 239
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Brantyman 32
Lucy Brantyman 26
Edward Brantyman 5
William Brantyman 4
Thomas H Brantyman 6 months


Image states Beautyman, Thomas was a dock labourer.


Dee x

Here is their marriage, ordering it should tell you his fathers name and occupation;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Beautyman Thomas Hull 9d 514
Morris Lucy Hull 9d 514


Dee x

Have you tried a search on this site, there are quite a lot of members looking for the surname
Liz