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Hiya all,
My Gran is Mary Devine she was born 1912 she pass over in 1994, on her birth cert it says her mum was Mary Fullwood, there is no fathers name, Mary Fullwood was married to a Samuel Devine they were married in dec 1911 in Basford 1911 7B 403 my gran was born March 1912 so her mother was pregnant at the time, i cant understand why her fathers name isnt on the birth cert, how do i find out if samuel is her real father?

Sarah.... Mary Fullwood was pregnant at the time of her marriage to Samuel Devine and he possibly did not want the child registered as his...Have you a copy of your grandmothers Marriage Cert...that would show fathers name if any down.

there isnt a Fathers name on the Birth cert she took the name of the man that married her mum, My uncle definatley thinks that Samuel Devine was her father but i just don't know and can't move up my tree without knowing its all abit strange

Sarah,
You may have to search parish records to try and find her baptism, (not available online).

Sylvie

i knew this was going to be differcult, my gran was born and christening in derbyshire but i like in yorkshire so a far way away from me, i would go down there but don't drive and wouldnt have a clue where to start looking, could i look for one of her siblings birth cert to see if samuel was on their birth cert fycwim?

Thanks sarah

Sarah...is the BC a Full Cert. or the shortened version..? As Mary was Registered as "Mary Devine" then I cant understand no fathers name either...who Registered the Birth..?

her mum registered her birth
the cert is a shortened version of the full birth cert,

Sarah...You will find his name on the Full Version.....the shortened version (cheaper) only had basic info.on......I had exactly the same problem with my grandmothers until someone put me right..!!!

Thanks erin i will hve to buy the full version and see what it says Thank for you advice Regrds sarah

Thanks erin i will hve to buy the full version and see what it says Thank for you advice Regrds sarah

hiya all, Iam still here and really could do with some help Because this tree is driving me nuts lol, i'm not getting anywhere fast, I found my Grans birth cert. it's say Samuel Devine and Mary ann Fulwood was her mum and dad, i have been searching for Mary ann Fulwood 1892 and various sites i found that her mum was also had the same name and that her father was James fulwood he was born in 1857

but im totally hit a brick wall now arghh

What is the address on the birth cert? Might be worth checking out 1911.

Have found this but as this Mary is a sister not entirely helpful!

FULLWOOD, Thomas Head Married M 22 1889 Coal Miner Loader Underground Harts Hill Nr Dudley Warickshire VIEW
FULLWOOD, Annie E Wife Married F 19 1892 Strelly Nottinghamshire VIEW
FULLWOOD, Mary E Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Ilkeston Derbyshire VIEW
FULLWOOD, Mary Ann Sister Single F 18 1893 House Keeper Harts Hill Nr Dudley Worickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20405 Reference:
RG14PN20405 RG78PN1222 RD429 SD2 ED14 SN198

Registration District:
Basford Sub District:
Ilkeston Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Ilkeston

Address:
38 Ebenezer St Ilkeston County:
Nottinghamshire

What are these "various sites"? The only reliable (mostly!) info will be from her marriage cert.
Jan

This is perhaps the family that you have found? As Jan says though you need to check her father's name and occupation on her marriage certificate or you could spend hours and hours and much money tracing the wrong people!

1901

Name: James Fullwood
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Harts Hill, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Ilkeston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
James Fullwood 44 Iron Moulder
Mary A Fullwood 38
Luke Fullwood 20
James Fullwood 17
Nelly Fullwood 14
Thomas Fullwood 12
Joseph Fullwood 10
Mary Ann Fullwood 8
Charles Fullwood 5


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3151; Folio: 129; Page: 28

Ive been on ancestry, tree search, family search etc. Thanks you for the help sorry i couldn't reply ealier i didnt think anyone would reply so fast your all stars, Thanks again at least know i have something to start me off Thank you

Hello again Sarah...
Here is James 1881...corresponds with family 1901posted by "rootgatherer"

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James FULLWOOD Head M Male 24 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England Moulder
Mary Ann FULLWOOD Wife M Female 21 Dudley, Worcester, England
Luke FULLWOOD Son Male 10 m Dudley, Worcester, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 21 Vine St
Census Place Dudley, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341690
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2878 / 145
Page Number 38

This is the marriage of James and Mary Ann..


Registered March quarter 1879 Dudley...

James Fullwood and Mary Ann Williams

Sarah...Ignore last post...Mary A had to be born in Dudley...Charles Philip was registered there and she was older than him...back searching again..

Sarah...Dont know how I missed them..
Mary Ann registered Dudley March 1892
also Mary Ann registered Dudley Sept.1893

Dont know which is yours need to check see if there was a death for MA 1892 or you will need to draw lots as to which Cert. to send for...

Death registered March 1892 Mary Fullwood (Baby..no age 0..)..so "your "MA is probably the one registered 1893.
I have x checked to make sure there were no Mary F. (without the A.) born 1891/1892 who could have been the Death Reg. (No A reg) but there wasn't .

Sarah...Check out the 1911 Census Basford...14 Devine's listed...Samuel b 1892...You will then get his family...