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Georgina
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16 May 2012 21:43 |
hi are you related to the panks family
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 21:11 |
" Hi Christine, thanks for all that information it was brilliant and thank you for taking the time and making the effort to help me. it is really appreciated. I have one question if you dont mind and that is do you think that the difference in spelling ie. Larram, Laitham and Larham was because some official did not want to appear to be thick and have to ask how to spell the name? Anyhow thanks again for all your help"
My first point would be have you heard the suffolk/norfolk accent at its thickest. I learnt to talk in Norwich and moved to London when I was 5. No one could understand me at school.
In the 1800s spelling was not considered important. There was no set rules. They wrote it like they heard it. Sometimed completely different on the same document. I have a will where the same person is referred to as Bragginton/Brockingtom/ Bragynton. Also known as Brock Bragg etc. That is why we try to corroberate evidence with certificates, parish register, bmd and census documentation. so the first problem is that the person themselves would not have a clue how to spell their name. sometimes enumuraters may be from a different area and have trouble hearing the name. then some 200 years later some poor soul without knowledge of the family has to read faint old fashioned handwriting to work out what it was meant to say. Not easy.
It is normal to post and acknowledge replies on the message board. That is good for you as it puts it to the top and someone else may have a go. Fresh eyes are always good. I will copy and paste this one for you.
BTW I have posted on your Hutchins thread too.
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:50 |
possible marriage for hannah but only 12 unless a late christening.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HANNAH LARHAM Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: JAMES GARWOOD Family Marriage: 09 AUG 1828 Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M131732 1828 0918513 Film NONE Sheet:
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:43 |
1841 census - household transcription Person: LARHAM, Jemima Address: Workhouse, Lowestoft
LARHAM, Jemima F 25 1816 Suffolk VIEW LARHAM, John M 5 1836 Suffolk VIEW LARHAM, William M 2 1839 Suffolk VIEW
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:39 |
Jemima has a sister too
HANNAH LARRAM Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 OCT 1816 Wrentham, Suffolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN LARRAM Family Mother: ELIZABETH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C062601
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:33 |
1851 census - household transcription Person: WHITE, Henry Address: 142, Row, Nelson Ward, Great Yarmouth WHITE, Henry Head Married M 46 1805 Journeyman Baker Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1805 Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Henry Son Married M 24 1827 Journeyman Cooper Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Margaret Daughter Married F 23 1828 Day Service Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Susannah Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 At Service Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Harrett Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Maget Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Charles Son Unmarried M 8 1843 Yarmouth Norfolk
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:31 |
1841 census - household transcription Person: WHITE, Henery Address: Wellington Place, St Nicholas, Regent, Great Yarmouth WHITE, Henry M 35 1806 Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Elizebeth F 35 1806 Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Henery M 15 1826 Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Rachel F 10 1831 Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Harriot F 3 1838 Norfolk VIEW WHITE, Magel M 1 1840 Norfolk VIEW
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Alan
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17 Sep 2009 17:29 |
Hello Christine. A lot of Norfolk births and marriages are on Ancestry. Regards Alan.
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:28 |
possible sibling for john
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Henry Thomas White Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 10 OCT 1804 Christening: 15 OCT 1804 St Nicholas', Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: John White Family Mother: Sarah Thompson
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C000244 Film
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:24 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarah White Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 JUN 1829 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: John White Family Mother: Hannah
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: I032245 Film Sheet:
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:18 |
this one for instance
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOHN WHITE Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ANNABELLA PANKS Family Marriage: 01 JAN 1826 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M163154
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:13 |
Hi Alan I have just noticed your post.
Looks good. I found nothing on family search. Where did you find that one please?
I have not found anything to confirm birth of children or John's first marriage. found several marriages of a john but not to a Hannah.
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 17:04 |
Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%) Larham John Yarmouth 4b 27 Mills Eliza Yarmouth 4b 27
1861 census - household transcription Person: LARHAM, John Vessel: Earl Grey Birgantine Coasting Port/place: Great Yarmouth LARHAM, John Married M 26 1835 Seaman Forston Suffolk
1861 census - household transcription Person: LARHAM, Eliza Address: Rupert Street, Heigham, Norwich Cost: You will be charged 3 credits for a transcript and 3 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results 1861 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LARHAM, Eliza Wife Married F 36 1825 Dressmaker Norwich Norfolk VIEW LARHAM, Walter Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar Norwich Norfolk VIEW LARHAM, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 8 1853 Scholar Norwich Norfolk VIEW LARHAM, Henry Son Unmarried M 3 1858 Scholar Norwich Norfolk
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:52 |
This could well be jemmima's birth. Her son was born in suffolk too
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JEMIMA LARRAM Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 FEB 1814 Wrentham, Suffolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN LARRAM Family Mother: ELIZABETH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C062601
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:48 |
Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
Larham Jemima Yarmouth 13 989 White John Gt Yarmouth 13 989
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Alan
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17 Sep 2009 16:48 |
Is this any help Name: John White Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Jun 1802 Christening Date: 21 Jun 1802 Christening Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: John White Mother's Name: Sarah Thompson
Name: John White Gender: Male Father's Name: John White Spouse's Name: Jemima Larham Spouse's Father's Name: John Larham Marriage Date: 11 Nov 1850 Marriage Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Regards Alan
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:30 |
you may find this site useful
http://www.norfolkfhs.org.uk/index.asp
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:20 |
this could be her son from a previous relationship
LAITHAM, John Son In Law Unmarried M 15 1836 Errand Boy Froslenden Suffolk
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:16 |
No He married twice
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOHN WHITE Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: JEMIMA LARHAM Family Marriage: 11 NOV 1850 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M163155 1847 - 1869 1526457 Film NONE Sheet:
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LadyKira
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17 Sep 2009 16:07 |
This seems to have a difficult to transcribe image. It is possible that Jamina and Hannah are the same person if it was difficult to read. I had a Jemima who was transcribed as Hannah. There are enough similarities in this though that makes me think it is the write one.
1841 census - household transcription Person: WHITE, John Address: St Denes Walls, Great Yarmouth, St George WHITE, John M (-) Norfolk FREE WHITE, Hannah F 40 1801 Norfolk FREE WHITE, Harriet F (-) Norfolk FREE WHITE, Sarah F (-) Norfolk FREE WHITE, John M 9 1832 Norfolk FREE WHITE, Elizth F 7 1834 Norfolk FREE WHITE, Maria F 5 1836 Norfolk FREE WHITE, ??? F 3 1838 Norfolk FREE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 794 Book/Folio: 7 Page: 6 Registration District: Great Yarmouth Sub District: Southern EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth Municipal Borough: Great Yarmouth Address: St Denes Walls, Great Yarmouth, St George County: Norfolk
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