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Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 20:11

Hi guys

Im trying to find a birth and death record for a relative

Elizabeth Musgrove Temple

She married my great granda on 1/11/1919 and shows on the marrage certifcate as 20 so guess she must have been born c1899

She was born in South Shields, Durham and also died there but thats the only infor I have apart from her father was called Frederick James temple (this being off her marraige cert)

Also the witnesses off the wedding cet show quite unclear but think they are

Marth Ogilvie Temple and William Harry Musgrove Allen?

Hope someone can help me

Thanks in advance

Mx

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Nov 2009 20:37

None coming up with the middle name of Musgrove

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 18 Nov 2009 20:38

Birth ?? - which would give you a bit more info:

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Temple Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 777


Alice

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Nov 2009 20:39

Frederick James Temple married Martha Musgrove, so this would clarify the witness names.
She also had a sister Martha circa 1901

Ann

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 18 Nov 2009 20:40

Temple Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 777

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 18 Nov 2009 20:41

Is this the marriage??

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Mansfield Sarah O Burray S.Shields 10a 1965
Murray William M Mansfield S.Shields 10a 1965
Temple Elizabeth M Thompson S. Shields 10a 1965
Thompson Benjamin G Temple S. Shields 10a 1965


Cassy

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 20:41

hi guys

sorry

Elizabeth Musgrove Temple Married Benjamine Gldston Thompson on 1/11/1919

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:17

1911 living with Frederick j(father) TEMPLE FREDERICK J M 1878 33 South Shields Durham
TEMPLE ELIZABETH F 1899 12 South Shields Durham
TEMPLE MARTHA F 1880 31 South Shields Durham
TEMPLE MARTHA F 1901 10 South Shields Durham

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:21

parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1899
Gavin Ursula Wilhelmina S. Shields 10a 1216
Musgrove Martha S. Shields 10a 1216 **********
Nessworthy Frederick S. Shields 10a 1216
Temple Frederick James S. Shields 10a 1216*********

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 21:29

I dont think the above is her as on her marraige cert her name is Eliabeth M Temple not Elizebeth F and also the martha on her wedding cert i found here but couldnt find her in a census to see if she was a sister or anyhing?
Name: Martha Ogilvie Temple
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 874

not sure if the address can help any one but the addres on marraige cert is 73 west holborn?

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:30

I wonder??
Births Jun 1899
Musgrove Elizabeth English S. Shields 10a 877

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:31

The "f" and"m" stand for female and male!

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 21:35

oh Jan Im so sorry I totally misread it sorry (Im new to this so i appologise) may that could be it then as there doesnt seem to be many around what i can find and a good coincedence that there all mentioned there.

Wha would be the best way to check if this is the actual family?

Thanks so much

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:47

Mark i am just trying to find them in 1901 for but not having much luck. Can anyone else find them?

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 21:48

Ive looked on Genes and on ancestory and cant find them anywhere? Im los off hun?

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 21:52

martha's marriage/
Name: Martha O Temple/ Joseph S A Balmer
Spouse Surname: Balmer
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1927
Registration district: South Shields
Registration county (inferred): Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1099

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 21:57

im guessing also that the maiden name for the mother may have been musgrove as the other witness was a william harry musgrove allen?

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 22:10

what was her dads occupation on the marriage cert?
I wonder if it would be worth getting sister Martha's birth cert (if you are certain of this connection ) to confirm parents names

Shieldsman

Shieldsman Report 18 Nov 2009 22:44

maybe yea, his occuation on the marraige cert was sailor?

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2009 23:07

Have opened 1911 image page and he is a Ships Stoker so looks good for being the right family!
married 13 years
2 children
address 85 west pan place