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lavey or conley????????????

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Vanessa

Vanessa Report 27 Jan 2010 20:25

hi
my great grandma married a john boddy in 1902, and on the marraige cert she and her dad peter said their name was conley. so why on the cencus records they said there name was conley. any ideas. all certs have the name lavey, lahey!!! they lived in middlesbrough and sunderland. but in the 1871 cencus they said their name was levey. this is confusing me. is there any way i can find out why they used 2 names?
and secondly mary conley 1878 had a boy called francis boddy (my grandad) 1900 and a girl mary boddy 1900 so they were twins but there is no record of their birth or that they live with her in the 1901 cencus, but appear in the 1911 cencus.
some one please help

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 27 Jan 2010 20:55

The marriage....

Marriages Dec 1902

>>BODDY John Middlesbro' 9d 1216
Bowdler Sarah Ann Middlesbro' 9d 1216
>>LAVERY Mary Middlesbro 9d 1216
Womack Ernest Samuel Middlesbro' 9d 1216


Is this your Francis...?

Births Mar 1900
Boddy Francis Ernest Middlesbro' 9d 547


Gwyn

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 27 Jan 2010 21:02

yeah that them!! i have all the details, but i just dont understand why she would go by 2 names?
thanks

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 27 Jan 2010 21:04

francis ernest is the wrong francis, he was just francis boddy, he was born in dec

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Jan 2010 12:20

Unless you know that this is definitely a different Francis, don't let the middle name put you off.
Some of mine only used one name through life, although registered with two forenames.
Yet others added a fictious middle name when they married. !

The Francis Ernest registration could very easily be for a child born in December. Then, as now, you had 42 days to register a birth, so a birth in the last month of a quarter, eg. Oct, Nov, DECEMBER, could easily be registered in the quarter after the birth actually happened.

Gwyn

K

K Report 28 Jan 2010 12:37

Looks like there is another Francis Boddy with the middle name of Ernest

1911

BODDY, Francis Ernest Head Married
11 years M 53 1858 Joiner General Dealer Yorkshire Ripley VIEW
BODDY, Sarah Jane Wife Married F 43 1868 Assistent In Business Grocery Yorkshire Middlesbrough VIEW
CHRISTELOW, George Victor Son Single M 15 1896 School Yorkshire Middlesbrough VIEW
CHRISTELOW, Margeret Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Yorkshire Middlesbrough VIEW
BODDY, Francis Ernest Son Single M 11 1900 School Yorkshire Middlesbrough VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29286 Reference:
RG14PN29286 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED23 SN22

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough West EnumerationDistrict:
23 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
31 Bolckow Street Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2010 12:47

This looks like them in 1911 - I can see why you think Francis and mary were twins:

BODDY, John Head Married M 32 1879 Labour Iron Furnace Middlesbro
BODDY, Mary Married
10 years F 29 1882 Sunderland VIEW
BODDY, Mary Daughter F 10 1901 School Middlesbro
BODDY, John Son M 4 1907 Middlesbro
BODDY, Peter Son M 2 1909 Middlesbro
BODDY, Francis Son M 10 1901 School Middlesbro

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 12:47

no thats definately not him as he married a margaret newton in 1928 then my nan elizabeth hall/mccarthy in 1932. thankyou

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 12:50

yes thats them in 1911. its wierd how they just didnt appear with mary in 1901 cencus as all of there birth years are 1 year ahead of when they actually were born.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2010 12:53

Maybe Mary and Francis had mother's name? Possibly born before she married? Just a thought.
Jan

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 12:56

yeah they were born before they married as they married in 1902 but because mary went by 2 names conley and lavey i just can find them at all.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 28 Jan 2010 12:59

Do you have Mary on the 1891 and 1901 census.... I'm struggling to see them. All I can see is a similar family, living same area under the Name of McElwee.


Dee x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2010 13:01

Maybe this is Mary? Stretching it a bit but can't see a better match:

Births Jun 1903 (>99%)
BODDY Mary Middlesbro' 9d 628

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 13:01

i dont have the 1891 cencus
they would be peter conley/lavey/levey
bridget his wife
mary
and her brothers and sisters
sunderland or middlesbrough

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 28 Jan 2010 13:04

This is the family and I wondered if they'd changed their name again??

1891 England Census
about Mary L McElwee
Name: Mary L McElwee
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hildas
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter McElwee 40 Born Derr, Ireland... Occupation; Iron worker
Matilda McElwee 38
Mary L McElwee 12
Francis McElwee 10
Patrick McElwee 7
Catherine McElwee 5
James McElwee 2


Bridget could have died??


Dee x

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 13:08

bridget was in the 1901 cencus.
but there was only mary and one brother living with them at the time.
thanks dee

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 13:19

what about connolly?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Jan 2010 13:41

??????
1891
Peter was a coal miner b. Bradford, Yorkshire, all the others Spennymoor.
They are living in East Street.

Name: Mary Coneley
Age: 10/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Spennymoor, Durham, England

Civil parish: Thornley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomews
Town: Thornley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Coneley 30
Bridget Coneley 27
Patrick Coneley 4
Daniel Coneley 2
Mary Coneley 10/12

This Mary is far too young though..........

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Jan 2010 14:11

Vanessa,

When did Francis BODDY die.?
Was it after 1969...if so his birthdate should be on his death certificate., ...if known.

Gwyn

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 28 Jan 2010 14:16

he died in 1975/6 i think