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Charles James Banks 1849 Lincoln.I am trying to fill in the missing years,he was last in the 1861 census then turns up in the 1891 census with Mary/Martha Clark with or without an E.His name is then Richard Clark,which he continues to use.He is recorded as alive in 1911 but deceased by 1922 as recorded on a marriage cert.As you can see i have done a lot of research already but am stumped when it comes to the missing years.D

Im not sure he was born in Lincolnshire? His parents are from Essex


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Charles James Banks
Name: Charles James Banks
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Martha Clarke
Spouse Age: 38
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Dec 1897
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Banks
Spouse Father Name: George Clarke


Wittnesses

Charles Green
Emily Miller

Both fathers deceased

Unless this is him as just Charles?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Banks
Name: Charles Banks
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lincoln
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 14
Page: 496 (click to see others on page)

thats him,he's down on the census as birth place Lincoln.D

For info

1861 England Census
about Charles Banks <<<<<<Ag labourer
Name: Charles Banks
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James <<<<<<<<<<<<Labourer, roads
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Roydon
Town: Roydon
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Harlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members: Name Age
James Banks 42
Ann Banks 39
George Banks 17
Harriet Banks 15
Charles Banks 12
Honor Banks 8
Joseph Smell 80


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thats his family,then i lose him,their were stories of a possible 1st marriage and he is down as a widower when he marries Martha.D

Doreen

Was there a canadian connection?

yes! do you think he could have gone there?D

Doreen

There are too many possibles!

I think the only way you are going to be able to solve this is buy marriage certificates in order to establish his first wife

Not cheap I know but I cant see another way around it

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In fact looking at the possible marriages there are only these in the country for that name and that period

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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BANKS Charles James Smallburgh 4b 63

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Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Banks Charles James Salford 8d 152

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Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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BANKS Charles James Shoreditch 1c 212

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Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Banks Charles James Bromsgrove 6c 475

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Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Banks Charles James Hackney 1b 931

Ginny,i have to leave the comp for a while,having my hair done.I will check in regularly to see if you have or need any info.I dont fancy your chances much i must admit. D x

What do you think the chances are that he would have been married when he met Martha,if so then it would have to be the smallborough one,would'nt it!

Ive checked the marriage cert online and it does say he is a 'widower' and Martha is a 'spinster'

So, unless he lied (cant see why he would) he must have been married before

Can you post the details of the 91 census when you say Martha and 'Richard' are together as I cant see it.......they werent married until 97 so not sure why are together?

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1891 census Richard Clark Head age 42
Mary Clark 29
Frederick Clark 5
Lily Clark 2

west ham
St Mary
Essex
England

Doreen

Im not convinced about that 1891 census, it could be anyone.

What makes you thinks its your Charles and why would he have her name, they didnt marry until 6 years later

Also, what makes you think he changed his name to Richard?

Soooo many questions

I know,can i send you a private e.mail x

I know you say he was dead by 1922 but that may not be the case!

Heres a couple of deaths that may be worth checking out

Deaths Jun 1911 (>99%)
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BANKS Charles J 60 Norwich 4b 90


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%)
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BANKS Charles J 60 Lambeth 1d 298

Hi Ginny,does it look like we have come to the end of the road or is there anything you can advise me to do.x

It's never the end of the road Doreen!

Of course you can PM me. I am dipping in and out of GR today...work

But will carry on having a look

x

Hi Ginny,have sent you a pm,can you let me know if you have got it thanks D x