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7 Mar 2010 07:39 |
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Looking for Elizabeth dau of Joseph and Agnes Hodgkinson. Agnes died when Elizabeth was abt 6 weeks old and she was reared by her GM but do not know if Maternal or Paternal. She used to talk about Burton on Trent. Unassisted immigration passage to Australia on SS Miltiades in 1913. Age 25y listed as domestic. Third class departing from Port of London. She told no one she was migrating and no one knew where she was until months later. There is a letter from her cousin Harold Upton dated Aug 1917 serving in the Army. Elizabeth is listed 1914 electoral roll at Francis St Echuca.
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Penny
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7 Mar 2010 07:40 |
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do you have her birth cert? where do you think she was born?
the only realistic death is this one
Deaths Jun 1893 Hodgkinson Agnes 41 Macclesfield 8a 102
could this be her parents marriage? Marriages Mar 1860 Heap Thomas Walsall 6b 687 Hodgkinson Joseph Walsall 6b 687 Martin Agnes Walsall 6b 687 Norton Mary Ann Walsall 6b 687
did she have siblings?
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patchem
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7 Mar 2010 08:10 |
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If Elizabeth were 25 in 1913, she was born around 1888. There are plenty of possible births for her, but no obvious deaths for her Mother Agnes.
The death of Agnes in 1893 at age 41 gives a birth date for her of 1852, so could not be married in 1860.
No other obvious marriage of a Joseph Hodgkinson to an Agnes
At the moment we appear to have some spelling errors, or date errors.
Pat
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Penny
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7 Mar 2010 08:14 |
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that might not be the right marriaget all, one or other of those might be right,not nessesarily both even connected.
until John tells us more we are fumbling about.
John- help us!
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:11 |
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I may have found a link to Harry Upton?
harry's parents were Fred Upton born 1864 in B O T, and his mother was Annie Herdson born Tutbury in 1870.
I then found this marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FINCH Alice Burton 6b 540 >>>>>>>>>>>Herdson Agnes Elizabeth Burton 6b 540 >>>>>>>>>HODGKINSON Frederick Joseph Burton On Trent 6b 540 Robinson John Burton 6b 540
1871 England Census about Agnes Elizabeth Herdson Name: Agnes Elizabeth Herdson Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Anne Gender: Female Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Burton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Burton Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household schedule number: 106 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Herdson 34 Anne Herdson 24 Thomas Braithwaite Herdson 6 Agnes Elizabeth Herdson 3 Anne Herdson 1 >>>>>>>>> Annie who married Fred Upton??? Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:17 |
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1881 England Census about Agnes Hertson Name: Agnes Hertson Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Female Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Tutbury County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Monk Street Hope and Anchor Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Hatton 70 William Oldknow 34 Annie Oldknow 35 Agnes Hertson 13 Annie Hertson 11 Alice Oldknow 5 Harry Oldknow 3 Fred Oldknow Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:28 |
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This is Agnes Elizabeths mother in 1891;
1891 England Census about Annie Hartshorn Name: Annie Hartshorn Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Tutbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Tutbury County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah Hartshorn 69 Annie Hartshorn 45 Harry Hartshorn 14 Fred Hartshorn 10 Ellen Hartshorn 7 Thomas Hartshorn 5 George Hartshorn 3 No sign of Elizabeth Hodgkinson here.
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:31 |
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I wonder if this is a remarriage for Frederick Joseph Hodgkinson, his names may have been switched around??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Breeze Sarah Ann Burton 6b 499 Cripwell John Burton 6b 499 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hodgkinson Joseph Frederick Burton 6b 499 Mansell Frances Burton 6b 499
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:33 |
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This chap is a WIDOW!!!
1891 England Census about Joseph Hodgkinson Name: Joseph Hodgkinson Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Werburgh Town: Hanbury Woodend County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Mellor 55 Elizabeth Mellor 43 Sarah A Mellor 8 Ellen Smith 5 Joseph Stone 30 James White 47 George Mellor 26 Joseph Hodgkinson 24 Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:41 |
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Got to go now............ shopping to do, will try to pick it up later and see if we can find Elizabeth Hodgkinson.
Any one else fancy having a look whilst I'm not about???
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:44 |
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Couldn't resist;
1891 England Census about Elizabeth Hodgkinson Name: Elizabeth Hodgkinson Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation: Grandchild Gender: Female Where born: Hanbury, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Werburgh Town: Hanbury Woodend County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jonathan Hodgkinson 59 >>>>>> born Newborough Dinah Hodgkinson 54 Amy Hodgkinson 18 Alice Hodgkinson 12 Elizabeth Walker 10 Joseph Walker 9 Martha Hodgkinson 6 Elizabeth Hodgkinson 4
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 11:48 |
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Maybe???
1871 England Census about Joseph Hodkinson Name: Joseph Hodkinson Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: Johnson Mother's Name: Dinah Gender: Male Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanbury County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Johnson Hodkinson 37 >>>>>>>>> Jonathan!! Dinah Hodkinson 37 Matilda Hodkinson 14 Joseph Hodkinson 10 Eliza Hodkinson 8 Israel Hodkinson 2 Frederick Hodkinson 1 month
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Choccy
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7 Mar 2010 11:57 |
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1911 census -
DOWNMAN, Agnes E Wife Married F 43 1868 London Bettina Grove VIEW DOWMAN, Theodore F P Son Single M 18 1893 Articled Clerk Derbyshire Derby VIEW MIDDLEMASS, Muriel May Boarder Single F 19 1892 Student Cheshire Wistaston VIEW FEILDING, Louisa E Servant Single F 35 1876 Cook Domestic Northamptonshire Yarwell VIEW ******HODGKINSON, Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Domestic Staffordshire Hanbury VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 20874 Reference: RG14PN20874 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED3 SN314 Registration District: Derby Sub District: Derby EnumerationDistrict: 3 Parish: Derby Address: 28 Hartington St Derby County: Derbyshire
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 12:12 |
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This is Srah Ann Breeze, who married Joseph Frederick Hodgkinson in 1894;
1901 England Census about Sarah A Hodgkinson Name: Sarah A Hodgkinson [Sarah A Toplis] Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Francis Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Female Where born: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanbury Ecclesiastical parish: Hanbury St Werburgh Town: Hanbury Woodend County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Burton upon Trent Sub-registration district: Tutbury ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Francis Toplis 56 Annie Toplis 60 Sarah A Hodgkinson 33 Minnie Toplis 20 Frank Hodgkinson 5 Thomas Hodgkinson 3 Minnie Hodgkinson 2 States she is married.
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patchem
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7 Mar 2010 14:42 |
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Does this become the most likely death of Agnes? Agnes Hodgkison Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 19 District: St George Hanover Square County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 328
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 15:35 |
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HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON MINNIE F 1899 12 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON ANNIE F 1862 49 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON ARTHUR M 1863 48 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON LOTTIE WINIFRED F 1895 16 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON SARAH F 1868 43 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON THOMAS M 1898 13 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
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Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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7 Mar 2010 15:37 |
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Following Arthur born 1863 back through the censuses brings me to this family;
1871 England Census about Arthur Hodghison Name: Arthur Hodghison [Arthur Hodgkinson] Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Newborough County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Uttoxeter Sub-registration district: Abbots Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hodghison 35 Mary Hodghison 36 Herbet W Hodghison 12 Charles F Hodghison 11 Arthur Hodghison 8 Mary A Hodghison 3 Harriet Hodghison 3 Eliza Hodghison 1 NO Joseph or Frederick...... so possibly the wrong Hodgkinson family!!!
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John
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7 Mar 2010 22:51 |
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Thank you all. I will go through this and get back.
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John
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13 Mar 2010 03:06 |
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I think this is her thanks. She emigrated in 1913 to Aus and listed on ships log as domestic. I can't find her in 1901 census but think she is in 1891 census living with grandparents Johnathon and Dinah Hodgkinson in Hanbury Woodend Staffordshire age 4 I have no birth cert any ideas welcome
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John
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13 Mar 2010 03:10 |
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I think this may be her. I have no birth date or cert and can find her on 1911 cesus working as a domestic Age and story ? matches. Any other suggestions welcome
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