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John

John Report 7 Mar 2010 07:39

Looking for Elizabeth dau of Joseph and Agnes Hodgkinson. Agnes died when Elizabeth was abt 6 weeks old and she was reared by her GM but do not know if Maternal or Paternal.
She used to talk about Burton on Trent.
Unassisted immigration passage to Australia on SS Miltiades in 1913. Age 25y listed as domestic. Third class departing from Port of London.
She told no one she was migrating and no one knew where she was until months later.
There is a letter from her cousin Harold Upton dated Aug 1917 serving in the Army.
Elizabeth is listed 1914 electoral roll at Francis St Echuca.

Penny

Penny Report 7 Mar 2010 07:40

do you have her birth cert? where do you think she was born?

the only realistic death is this one

Deaths Jun 1893
Hodgkinson Agnes 41 Macclesfield 8a 102


could this be her parents marriage?
Marriages Mar 1860

Heap Thomas Walsall 6b 687
Hodgkinson Joseph Walsall 6b 687
Martin Agnes Walsall 6b 687
Norton Mary Ann Walsall 6b 687


did she have siblings?

patchem

patchem Report 7 Mar 2010 08:10

If Elizabeth were 25 in 1913, she was born around 1888. There are plenty of possible births for her, but no obvious deaths for her Mother Agnes.

The death of Agnes in 1893 at age 41 gives a birth date for her of 1852, so could not be married in 1860.

No other obvious marriage of a Joseph Hodgkinson to an Agnes

At the moment we appear to have some spelling errors, or date errors.

Pat

Penny

Penny Report 7 Mar 2010 08:14

that might not be the right marriaget all, one or other of those might be right,not nessesarily both even connected.

until John tells us more we are fumbling about.

John- help us!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:11

I may have found a link to Harry Upton?

harry's parents were Fred Upton born 1864 in B O T, and his mother was Annie Herdson born Tutbury in 1870.

I then found this marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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FINCH Alice Burton 6b 540
>>>>>>>>>>>Herdson Agnes Elizabeth Burton 6b 540
>>>>>>>>>HODGKINSON Frederick Joseph Burton On Trent 6b 540
Robinson John Burton 6b 540



1871 England Census
about Agnes Elizabeth Herdson
Name: Agnes Elizabeth Herdson
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Female
Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Burton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Burton Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Herdson 34
Anne Herdson 24
Thomas Braithwaite Herdson 6
Agnes Elizabeth Herdson 3
Anne Herdson 1 >>>>>>>>> Annie who married Fred Upton???


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:17

1881 England Census
about Agnes Hertson
Name: Agnes Hertson
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tutbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Monk Street Hope and Anchor
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Hatton 70
William Oldknow 34
Annie Oldknow 35
Agnes Hertson 13
Annie Hertson 11
Alice Oldknow 5
Harry Oldknow 3
Fred Oldknow



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:28

This is Agnes Elizabeths mother in 1891;

1891 England Census
about Annie Hartshorn
Name: Annie Hartshorn
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Tutbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tutbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Tutbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Hartshorn 69
Annie Hartshorn 45
Harry Hartshorn 14
Fred Hartshorn 10
Ellen Hartshorn 7
Thomas Hartshorn 5
George Hartshorn 3


No sign of Elizabeth Hodgkinson here.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:31

I wonder if this is a remarriage for Frederick Joseph Hodgkinson, his names may have been switched around??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Breeze Sarah Ann Burton 6b 499
Cripwell John Burton 6b 499
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hodgkinson Joseph Frederick Burton 6b 499
Mansell Frances Burton 6b 499



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:33

This chap is a WIDOW!!!

1891 England Census
about Joseph Hodgkinson
Name: Joseph Hodgkinson
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Hanbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Werburgh
Town: Hanbury Woodend
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Mellor 55
Elizabeth Mellor 43
Sarah A Mellor 8
Ellen Smith 5
Joseph Stone 30
James White 47
George Mellor 26
Joseph Hodgkinson 24


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:41

Got to go now............ shopping to do, will try to pick it up later and see if we can find Elizabeth Hodgkinson.

Any one else fancy having a look whilst I'm not about???


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:44

Couldn't resist;

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Hodgkinson
Name: Elizabeth Hodgkinson
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Hanbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Werburgh
Town: Hanbury Woodend
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Hodgkinson 59 >>>>>> born Newborough
Dinah Hodgkinson 54
Amy Hodgkinson 18
Alice Hodgkinson 12
Elizabeth Walker 10
Joseph Walker 9
Martha Hodgkinson 6
Elizabeth Hodgkinson 4


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 11:48

Maybe???

1871 England Census
about Joseph Hodkinson
Name: Joseph Hodkinson
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Johnson
Mother's Name: Dinah
Gender: Male
Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Hanbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Johnson Hodkinson 37 >>>>>>>>> Jonathan!!
Dinah Hodkinson 37
Matilda Hodkinson 14
Joseph Hodkinson 10
Eliza Hodkinson 8
Israel Hodkinson 2
Frederick Hodkinson 1 month


Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Mar 2010 11:57



1911 census -



DOWNMAN, Agnes E Wife Married F 43 1868 London Bettina Grove VIEW
DOWMAN, Theodore F P Son Single M 18 1893 Articled Clerk Derbyshire Derby VIEW
MIDDLEMASS, Muriel May Boarder Single F 19 1892 Student Cheshire Wistaston VIEW
FEILDING, Louisa E Servant Single F 35 1876 Cook Domestic Northamptonshire Yarwell VIEW
******HODGKINSON, Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Domestic Staffordshire Hanbury VIEW


RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20874 Reference:
RG14PN20874 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED3 SN314

Registration District:
Derby Sub District:
Derby EnumerationDistrict:
3 Parish:
Derby

Address:
28 Hartington St Derby County:
Derbyshire






BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 12:12

This is Srah Ann Breeze, who married Joseph Frederick Hodgkinson in 1894;

1901 England Census
about Sarah A Hodgkinson
Name: Sarah A Hodgkinson
[Sarah A Toplis]
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Hanbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanbury St Werburgh
Town: Hanbury Woodend
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Toplis 56
Annie Toplis 60
Sarah A Hodgkinson 33
Minnie Toplis 20
Frank Hodgkinson 5
Thomas Hodgkinson 3
Minnie Hodgkinson 2


States she is married.


Dee x

patchem

patchem Report 7 Mar 2010 14:42

Does this become the most likely death of Agnes?
Agnes Hodgkison
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 19 District: St George Hanover Square
County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 328

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 15:35

HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON MINNIE F 1899 12 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON ANNIE F 1862 49 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON ARTHUR M 1863 48 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON LOTTIE WINIFRED F 1895 16 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON SARAH F 1868 43 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD HODGKINSON THOMAS M 1898 13 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire




This is a free 1911 census search.



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 7 Mar 2010 15:37

Following Arthur born 1863 back through the censuses brings me to this family;

1871 England Census
about Arthur Hodghison
Name: Arthur Hodghison
[Arthur Hodgkinson]
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Newborough, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Newborough
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Abbots Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hodghison 35
Mary Hodghison 36
Herbet W Hodghison 12
Charles F Hodghison 11
Arthur Hodghison 8
Mary A Hodghison 3
Harriet Hodghison 3
Eliza Hodghison 1


NO Joseph or Frederick...... so possibly the wrong Hodgkinson family!!!

John

John Report 7 Mar 2010 22:51

Thank you all. I will go through this and get back.

John

John Report 13 Mar 2010 03:06

I think this is her thanks. She emigrated in 1913 to Aus and listed on ships log as domestic.
I can't find her in 1901 census but think she is in 1891 census living with grandparents Johnathon and Dinah Hodgkinson in Hanbury Woodend Staffordshire age 4
I have no birth cert any ideas welcome

John

John Report 13 Mar 2010 03:10

I think this may be her. I have no birth date or cert and can find her on 1911 cesus working as a domestic Age and story ? matches.
Any other suggestions welcome