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many thx brummiejan, someone else also suggested that coe might be the one, two people cant be wrong!
many thx again

hi Minnie, how did you find the christening on isabella?
was it on here?

Have just read about Ethel Coe. Glad I suggested it though still wondering how it all works!
Jan

many thanks choccy, would nt have thought of the name
many thx again

here they are -


1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Dearsty
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Stradishall
Hundred: Risbridge
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Wickambrook
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Pryke 35
James Woodroof 45
Mary Elsden 20

Thomas Dearsty 40
Elizabeth Dearsty 35
Catharine Dearsty 15
George Dearsty 7
Ezabella Dearsty 5
Thomas Dearsty 2

Amela Woollard 60




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1033; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Stradishall; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 19; GSU roll: 474642.

search 1841 with just first name, living is Stradishall, if you think they were.

there cannot be many Isabellas living there in 1841- prob find Dearsley recorded as Dearley or something

it looks as though they were there in 1841 as well

ISABELLA DEARSLEY

Christening: 22 JUN 1834 Stradishall, Suffolk, England

Parents:
Father: THOMAS DEARSLEY Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

ok got the cert, edith maud is the daughter of Thomas Syer Coe and Elizabeth Betsy Coe formally Dearsley born 1884 November 8th
interesting
but now i find no record of the family in 1841

in 1851 there is
thomas 56
elizabeth 52
george 19 (mauds grandfather)
Isabella 16
Thomas 12
William 4

all living in Stradishall Suffolk

but when i search for them in 1841 there is nothing, only john dearsley's come back (3 of them)

any ideas ??
many thanks for your help

frustrating isnt it!
i am waiting for coe's birth cert
i have a feeling, will post the results

But in 1881 it says father born Stradishall and mother Whitchurch!!
Eileen

There is an Ethel Maud Dearsley registered St Saviours(southwark) Dec 1880 1d/31. In 1891 she is with parents in Gloucestershire Father Thomas 37 born Whitchurch Hants. manager Jam Factory. Mother Annie born Stradishall Brother Henry.
Eileen

Her birth might not have been registered.

My grandfather was born 1884 - one of 6 children (that I know of) all born between 1874 and 1894 - not one of them is registered.

Frustrating, but it happened.

Jill

hi, thanks for the replies, i have already reached this far, and so hit a brick wall, although i take the point that brummiejan regarding the Coes.
i still dont quite understand how they recorded births in 1885, who was the birth reported to?
also i take the point that she is a child of one of the members in 1871.
i shall look at getting the birth record of coe and see what it says
jessie died aged 17
Samual seemed to be with her over 2 census, but that does not mean he is the father, could be from his sisters

Just in case you don't have it:

POND, William Alfred Head Married M 28 1883 Carpenter Labourer Essex Grays VIEW
POND, Edith Maud Wife Married 7 years F 26 1885 Suffolk Stradishall VIEW
POND, William Frank Son M 0 (5 MONTH) 1911 Essex Tilbury VIEW
POND, Henry Ernest Son M 0 (5 MONTH) 1911 Essex Tilbury VIEW

Registration District:
Orsett Sub District:
Grays EnumerationDistrict:
12 Parish:
Chadwell St Mary

Address:
144 Tilbury Buildings Tilbury Essex County:
Essex

She could be the child of any of these

1871
Name: George Dearsley
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maryann
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnardiston, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Stradishall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Wickhambrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
George Dearsley 41
Maryann Dearsley 43
John Dearsley 16
Emily Dearsley 14
Elizabeth Dearsley 12
George Dearsley 12
Arthur Dearsley 7
Jessie Dearsley 2
Samuel Dearsley 2

Yep, definitely 2 of them!

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
DEARSLEY Edith Maud Orsett 4a 827
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
DEARSLEY Edith Maud Hampstead 1a 1583

Do you have a marriage for her? Would be useful to know her father's name.
Jan

Saw that one but I think she is someone else:


1891 England Census

Name: Edith Dearsley
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampstead, London, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead

William Dearsley 46
Emma Dearsley 43
Florence Dearsley 9
Arthur Dearsley 8
Edith Dearsley 6
Sydney Dearsley 3

This is the only Edith Maud Dearsley registered between 1880 and 1890

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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DEARSLEY Edith Maud Hampstead 1a 721

Stradishall comes under Risbridge registration district. Just a long shot, but might this birth be relevant?

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
Coe Edith Maud Risbridge 4a 610

Just speculating that she might be an illegitimate daughter of Samuel perhaps?? A wild guess I know.

Jan

I see they are!

1891 England Census

Name: Edith Maud Dearsley
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Gender: Female
Where born: Stradishall, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: West Tilbury
Ecclesiastical parish: West Tilbury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Orsett
Sub-registration district: Orsett

George Dearsley 53
Mary Ann Dearsley 64
Samuel Dearsley 24
Edith Maud Dearsley 6