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Looks like a girls home/school;

1871 England Census
about Emily Jarvis
Name: Emily Jarvis
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George Bloomsbury
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 131




Too many to list, it looks like it states " Museum of Parachild School"... anybody an ideas?


Dee x

IF Mary Ann Jarvis nee Murray was Emilys mother, she remarried;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Ann Jarvis
Name: Mary Ann Jarvis
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Agostino Lazzaro Casella >>> Master Mariner
Spouse Age: 63
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jun 1874
Parish: Camden Church, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Joseph Murray >>> Tailor.. Deceased
Spouse Father Name: Luis Casella


Witnesses; Charles Joseph Murray and Mria Feddon?

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Robert Murray
Name: Robert Murray
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Louisa Elizabeth Clark
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Dec 1866
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Joseph Murray >>> Tailor
Spouse Father Name: Henry Clark




Little brother to Mary Ann Jarvis!!!


Witnesses; MARY ANN JARVIS and William Marker??



Dee x

Uuummm.........

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Murray
Name: Mary Ann Murray
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate
Hundred: London Without the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: East London
Sub-registration district: St Botolph
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Murray 30 Born Ireland, occupation TAILOR!!
Ann Murray 30 Born Ireland
Thomas Murray 7
Mary Ann Murray 5
Elizabeth Murray 3
John Murray 1

1851 England Census
about Ann Murray
Name: Ann Murray
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 336
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Murray 69 Born Isle of Sheppy. Occupation; TAILOR!!
Ann Murray 44
Robert Murray 5 >> Son
John Hodgson 54 >> Lodger


Dee x

Just chasing this Jarvis/Murray marriage;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Alfred Jarvis
Name: Alfred Jarvis
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Murray
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Apr 1856
Parish: St Mary, Paddington Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Jarvis
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Murray >>> Tailor


Witnesses; Ann Murray and John Walker


Dee x

Remember the 1861 census I posted, well look what I've found;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
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FARR Sarah Kensington 1a 187
>>>>>>>>>JARVIS Alfred Kensington 1a 187
LITTON Richard John Kensington 1a 187
>>>>>>>>MURRAY Mary Ann Kensington 1a 187




Dee x

OK.

On the 1881 census Ann Murray is the Grandmother of Wife!!!! So this is were we need to trace!!!


Dee x

I despair!!!!

It would have really helped Stewart if you had given us all the details 'up-front'. including the alternative name!!

Would have saved a lot of wasted time and frustration!

Dea

Is this his little sister Emilys birth??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Ann E Jasperson
Name: Mary Ann E Jasperson
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 644



Dee x

Emily states in 1881 she was born in Bloomsbury and then in 1891 Marylebone and in 1901 St Pancras!!!

I wonder about this;

1861 England Census
about Emily Jarvis
Name: Emily Jarvis
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 325
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Jarvis 28
Mary A Jarvis 24
Emily Jarvis 3


Dee x

25 in 1881, her year of birth would be 1855/6

It would have been helpful if you'd said at the start that you knew where she was born

1891 England Census
about Ayald T Jasperson
Name: Ayald T Jasperson
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Shields, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mathias
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 46a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Jasperson 39
Emily Jasperson 34
Ayald T Jasperson 13
Mary A E Jasperson 11
Marthe A Jasperson 9
Rebecca M Jasperson 7
Augustin A Jasperson 4
Albert A Jasperson 5/12

Hi,

just for info;

1881 England Census
about Alfred Jasperson
Name: Alfred Jasperson
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jasper
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Riley St East
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jasper Jasperson 29
Emily Jasperson 25
Emily Jasperson 1
Alfred Jasperson I CAN'T MAKE OUT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE AGE!!!!
Ann Murray 60 Grandmother


Dee x

Yes, as Alfred Jasperson the 1881 census with Emily shown as Emily Jasperson with head of family (husband?) Jasper Jasperson but I haven't been able to trace any marriage between Emily and Jasper between Alfreds birth in 1878 and the 1881 census.

Yes, all sorts, so many I've lost track. Alfred is shown as Alfred Jasperson in the 1881 census and Emily as Emily Jasperson with husband(?) Jasper Jasperson although I have been unable to trace any marriage between Jasper and Emily between Alfreds birth and the 1881 census. The 1881 census shows Emily as 25 yrs old ie born 1857 in Bloomsbury, Middlesex.

Thanks. I have that already but of course there is no father shown to Alfred Thomas Low and by the 1881 census Emily is shown as Emily Jasperson and Alfred as Alfred Jasperson although there appears to be no record anywhere betwen Alfred's birth and the 1881 census of any marriage. Any ideas?

Yes. She's shown as Emily Jasperson by that time but I can find no record of any marriage for her between when Alfred Thomas Low was born 25/3/1878 and the 1881 census, hence my enquiry. any ideas?

Have you got Alfred on any census?


Dee x

Unless you can say how old she was when she had the illegitimate child, or where she was born, it will not be possible to help you.

Have you tried any searches?

Do you have the cert giving the address?

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
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Jarvis Alfred Thomas L Tynemouth 10b 188