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I know what you mean. will do my best .thank you

Thank you very much but did any body own a farm.She will think ive got it wrong like socks going into the washing machine when you cant make a pair.

Lexie,

Having read your thread here, i would say maybe if the lady you are helping is old a touch of embelishment isn't going to hurt?

Maybe you ought to dress things up a litle and not be completely honest with her. If she's had this belief all her life there's not going to be any benefit breaking this?

I know it goes against all we do here, but sometimes it's best to leave people with their memories of how they believed life used to be, or stories they were told by elders, because those elders themselves had embelished the truth to make them seem more socially acceptable?.


Tracey x

thank you very much.ive now got to break the news to her they were not farm holders its never what you think is it.

thank you very much but can you make an elderly lady happy and please find a farm holder somewhere.Nothing is ever how its told .

And 1841 with his parents, who are also ag labs.


1841 census transcription details for: Honey Hill, Gamlingay
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 68 Book/Folio: 12 Page: 18

Reg. District: Caxton & Arrington Sub District: Caxton & Arrington
Parish: Gamlingay Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Honey Hill, Gamlingay
County: Cambridgeshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
WAGSTAFF, James M 50 1791 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Martha F 50 1791
WAGSTAFF, David M 25 1816 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Thomas M 20 1821 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Jane F 12 1829 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Mary F 9 1832 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, George M 5 1836 Cambridgeshire

Thank You this is not going to go down well ever wished youd never offered to help.

Thomas ag. lab 1851 too - living Mill Hill Cottage:


1851 England Census
about Thomas Wagstaff
Name: Thomas Wagstaff
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Gamlingay
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Caxton
Sub-registration district: Caxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wagstaff 31
Mary Wagstaff 37
George Wagstaff 9
Ann Wagstaff 6
Robert Wagstaff 4
Tom Wagstaff 1
Elizabeth Larkins 25 (sister-in-law)

Lexie,
Ag Lab,,covers anyone who worked on the land,/farm ,,,ie farm labourer,

Thank You so much but its one of those things that people do not want to except do you know if any of her family were farm holders.

Thak you but plase tell me there were farm holders somewhere.She will noe believe me.

Joseph's father was an ag lab.


1871 census transcription details for: Honey Hill, Gamlingay
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 1576 Folio: 108 Page: 16

Reg. District: Caxton Sub District: Caxton
Parish: Gamlingay Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Honey Hill, Gamlingay
County: Cambridgeshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
WAGSTAFF, Thomas Head M 51 1820 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Mary Wife F 57 1814 Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFF, Joseph Son M 15 1856 Cambridgeshire


In 1881 he was a horsekeeper, see above.



1891 census transcription details for: Senior Lane, Roystone
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3769 Folio: 47 Page: 27

Reg. District: Barnsley Sub District: Darton
Parish: Roystone Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Roystone City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Senior Lane, Roystone
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
WAGSTAFFE, Joseph Head Married M 35 1856 Coalminer
Gamblingay
Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFFE, Caroline Wife Married F 38 1853
Gamblingay
Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFFE, Job Son M 15 1876 Blacksmiths Apprentice
Gamblingay
Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFFE, Luke Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Monckton
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Mary E Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Monckton
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Jacob Son M 4 1887
Monckton
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Solomon Son M 2 1889
Royston
Yorkshire
DICKISON, Charles Boarder Single M 25 1866 Bricklayers Labourer
Gamblingay
Cambridgeshire




1901 census transcription details for: Midland Road, Roystone, Royston
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4309 Folio: 110 Page: 55

Reg. District: Barnsley Sub District: Darton
Parish: Roystone Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns the Baptist City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Midland Road, Roystone, Royston
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
WAGSTAFFE, Joseph Head Married M 46 1855 Colliery Horse Keeper Below Gd
Gamlingay
Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFFE, Caroline Wife Married F 48 1853
Gamlingay
Cambridgeshire
WAGSTAFFE, Luke Son Single M 21 1880 Colliery Saddler
Havercroft
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 18 1883 Dressmaker
Havercroft
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Jacob Son Single M 15 1886 Stable Boy Below Gd
Havercroft
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Solomon Son Single M 12 1889
Royston
Yorkshire
WAGSTAFFE, Leah Daughter Single F 9 1892
Royston
Yorkshire

thank you

Thank you so much for the info but can you please tell me that her grandparents were farm holders in gamlingay.or she will never believe me.

1881 for Solomons parents

1881 England Census
about Joseph Wagstaff
Name: Joseph Wagstaff
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Havercroft Cum Cold Hiendly
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Lundhill Terrace
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Horse Keeper

Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub-registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wagstaff 25
Caroline Wagstaff 27
Job Wagstaff 5
Luke Wagstaff 1


Andy

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Wagstaff Herbert Sykes Barnsley 9c 496
Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Wagstaff Nellie Sykes Barnsley 9c 356
Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Wagstaff Betty Sykes Barnsley 9c 413

Marriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Sykes Emma J Wagstaff Barnsley 9c 435
Wagstaff Solomon Sykes Barnsley 9c 435

and the children

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Wagstaff Herbert Sykes Barnsley 9c 496

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Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Wagstaff Nellie Sykes Barnsley 9c 356

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Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Wagstaff Betty Sykes Barnsley 9c 413



Andy

Huh I saw that one K but being stupid was looking for Royston Herts which is about 5 miles from Gamblingay

Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
WAGSTAFF Solomon Barnsley 9c 170

1911? His father was listed as born in the village



1911 census - household transcription
Person: WAGSTAFFE, Solomon
Address: Midland Road Royston Barnsley


WAGSTAFFE, Joseph Head Married M 55 1856 Colliery Horsekeeper Below Ground Cambs Gamlingay VIEW
WAGSTAFFE, Ellen Caroline Wife Married
36 years F 57 1854 Cambs Gamlingay VIEW
WAGSTAFFE, Jacob Son Single M 25 1886 Shoeing Smith Below Ground Yorks Royston VIEW
WAGSTAFFE, Solomon Son Single M 22 1889 Engine Tenter Below Ground Yorks Royston VIEW
WAGSTAFFE, Leah Daughter Single F 19 1892 Drapery Shop Assistant Yorks Royston VIEW
CLAY, William Boarder Single M 24 1887 Hairdresser Yorks Wakefield VIEW
MITCHELL, Lucy Boarder Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Yorks Royston VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27551 Reference:
RG14PN27551 RG78PN1577 RD507 SD1 ED7 SN65

Registration District:
Barnsley Sub District:
Darton Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Royston

Address:
Midland Road Royston Barnsley County:
Yorkshire (West riding