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Trying to find the McCormicks

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Jamie

Jamie Report 22 Jun 2010 14:29

Hi,
My Great Grandmothers name was Catherine McCormick born in Southport in 1894. Her father was Francis McCormick born c.1863 also in Southport. This is all i have on this branch of the family and I/m stuck...any help at all would be wonderful.
My Grandmother told me that the family origionally came from Cork in Ireland but I have nothing to back it up.
The only other information I have is that Francis was a Coachman by trade and that he died young...30ish, and left his widow Alice Wilkinson to raise the children.
Any help appreciated
// Jamie

Julie

Julie Report 22 Jun 2010 14:34

To start you off a bit

This looks to be Catherine with her Mum & Siblings

1901

Catherine McCormick
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Southport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilkinson 33
Jane Wilkinson 30
William Wilkinson 8
Peter Wilkinson 6
Catherine Wilkinson 4
Thomas Wilkinson 1
Jane Wright 71
Alice McCormick 39......Widower
Margaret McCormick 14
Thomas McCormick 8
Catherine McCormick 6
Mary Alice McCormick 4

Julie

Julie Report 22 Jun 2010 14:37

1891


Francis McCormick
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis McCormick 28
Alice McCormick 25
Margerite McCormick 4
William McCormick 1

Julie

Julie Report 22 Jun 2010 14:46

Looks lik you'll be best to by their M/C for his Dads name as i can't find him before the 1891 census

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
Howard Mary Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1131
How[a]rd Mary Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1131
Jones Edward Thomas Ormskirk 8b 1131
>>>>>>McCORMACK Francis Ormskirk 8b 1131
>>>>>>Wilkinson Alice Ormskirk 8b 1131

Have just noticed his surname is McCormack

Jamie

Jamie Report 22 Jun 2010 18:09

Thanks ever so much for the help....

I/ve done a search on the net based on info on the Marriage you mention and found this...

Marriage: 18 Jun 1883 St Luke, Southport, Lancashire, England
Francis McCormack - 22 Carter Bachelor of Southport
Alice Wilkinson - 18 Spinster of Southport
Groom's Father: Michael McCormack, Tailor
Bride's Father: William Wilkinson, Trainer (deceased)
Witness: Thurston Southworth; Thomas Wilkinson
Married by: W. H. Marsden
Register: Marriages 1883 - 1904, Page 3, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1849661

It certainly seems about right but is it possible the name is spelt wrong...and twice?
//Jamie

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2010 19:24

jamie..? Alice and family 1881...

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Catherine WILKINSON Head W Female 40 Southport, Lancashire, England Laundress
Thomas WILKINSON Son Male 17 Southport, Lancashire, England Whitesmith
Alice WILKINSON Daur Female 15 Southport, Lancashire, England Servant
William WILKINSON Son Male 13 Southport, Lancashire, England Scholar
Mary J. WILKINSON Daur Female 10 Southport, Lancashire, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 35 Barton St
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341897
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3749 / 66
Page Number 30

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2010 19:34

Possible parents of Francy..Also listed for N Meols a ? brother Michael b S.Port. married with family ...occup.Tailor

1881

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Michael MC CORMICK Head M Male 51 Longford, Ireland Tailor
Ann MC CORMICK Wife M Female 42 Tipperary, Ireland
John MC CORMICK Son U Male 20 Southport, Lancashire, England Bricklayer
Edward MC CORMICK Son U Male 18 Southport, Lancashire, England Fowl Butcher


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Source Information:
Dwelling 196 Bispham Rd
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341897
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3748 / 10
Page Number 14

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2010 19:42

Just for interest..This could be Francy and Alice's Witness (think the son listed would be to young.).
No other TS listed on 1881 census.

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
**Thurston SOUTHWORTH Head M Male 44 Walton Le Dale Gardener (Dom)
Mary SOUTHWORTH Wife M Female 35 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Gardeners Wife
Mary J. SOUTHWORTH Daur U Female 17 Winton, Lancashire, England General Servant
Ralph SOUTHWORTH Son U Male 15 Timperly, Cheshire, England Gardeners Assistant
William SOUTHWORTH Son Male 13 Timperly, Cheshire, England Drapers Assistant
Emily SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 11 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar
Thurston SOUTHWORTH Son Male 9 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar
Margaret SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 7 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar
Eleanor SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 5 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar
Robert RATCLIFFE Boarder U Male 17 Preston Railway Porter


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Source Information:
Dwelling 29 Percy St
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341897
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3749 / 57
Page Number 12

Jamie

Jamie Report 22 Jun 2010 20:16

Can/t thank you guys enough for the help. The McCormicks have and still are something of a mystery...which is sad as my Grand mother is one...but unfortunatly remembers very little.
She married moved to Leicester at a young age and contact with Southport and the McCormicks and Wilkinsons seems to have been completely lost.
J

Julie

Julie Report 22 Jun 2010 20:20

I can't for the life of me find them on the 1871 or 1861

& regarding the different spellings of their surname maybe he (Michael ) was misunderstood cos of his accent

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2010 23:00

Michael "McCormick" is definately on the 1861 (McCormack) and 1871 census. North Meols...
I dont have access ...sorry

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Jun 2010 11:37

Jaime..If this is Francis' Death then he was "Edward Francis"...no wonder I couldn't find him...(Edward corresponds with 1881 census living at home with Parents.)

Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
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McCormick Edward Francis 33 Ormskirk 8b 542

Michael snr. Died aged 69years Reg.June 1898.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Jun 2010 13:00

Jaime....This may be Francy's bro.1881 census. address is just along the Street to Michael Snr.

Also an Anne McCormick (b 1856) working as a servant in the area.

ousehold Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Michael MC CORMICK Head M Male 25 Southport, Lancashire, England Tailor
Mary Ann MC CORMICK Wife M Female 29 Bradford, York, England
John Jos. MC CORMICK Son U Male 3 Bradford, York, England
James T. MC CORMICK Son U Male 1 Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Sarah TARTT Servant M Female 46 Southport, Lancashire, England Charwoman


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Old Park Lane
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341897
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3748 / 15
Page Number 24

Jamie

Jamie Report 31 Jul 2010 14:30

Hi,
Well it took a whole month before I received the marriage cert. Unfortunately it gave me no more info than already known, the address they were living at is just down as Southport.
I/m pretty sure that his name was Edward Francis McCormick and that solves many puzzling questions but have no way to confirm it 100%
I guess one way would be to trace it through the Wilkinson's....we know that her name was Alice and she had a brother William.
Any suggestions are welcome as usual.
// Jamie

Jamie

Jamie Report 2 Aug 2010 13:35

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2010 14:03

I can't find them in 1861 or 1871 either but here is father Michael in 1891.

Name: Michael McCormack
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 18 High Park Road

Occupation: Tailor

Condition as to marriage: Widower

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page

Michael McCormack 63 Widower, Tailor
Thomas Barton 22 Son-in-law
Magaret E McCormack 23 Daughter
William Barton 2/12 Grandson
James S McCornack 11 Grandson


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3034; Folio 132; Page 21; GSU roll: 6098144.



Could this be birth for your man?? From Freebmd


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
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MICKCORMACK Edward Francis Ormskirk 8b 527

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2010 14:10

Now how about this one? They have TWO sons named Edward- so I guess each of them used their middle names!

1871 - London Lane

Name: Edward F A McCormick
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Michael
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: North Meols, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
Michael McCormick 39 Tailor, b. Longford, Ireland
Ann McCormick 35 b. Tipperary, Irland
Michael McCormick 15 b. North Meols, Lancashire, England
Christopher L McCormick 13
John J McCormick 11
Edward F A McCormick 8
Margaret E McCormick 7
Edward Thos McCormick 1


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3873; Folio: 134; Page: 24; GSU roll: 842030.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Aug 2010 14:15

This looks like Your Edward Francis's brother John married?

1891

Name: John McCormick
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Halsall 59
Alice Halsall 57
Robert Halsall 33
Alice 7
John McCormick 33
Alice McCormick 27
Margt E McCormick 6
Alice Ann McCormick 5
Mary McCormick 2


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3039; Folio 164; Page 23; GSU roll: 6098149

Jamie

Jamie Report 2 Aug 2010 14:17

Thanks Linda, yes, i/m pretty sure it is, its just finding a way to confirm it, unfortunately the marriage cert wasn't conclusive.
Francis McCormick married Alice Wilkinson in 1883, Alice had a brother William. The marriage cert is witnessed by a Thomas Wilkinson ( brother perhaps?) As her father, also named William is dead.
I feel that if I could connect Thomas, William and Alice then I/ll know i have the right Francis McCormick....

Jamie

Jamie Report 2 Aug 2010 14:25

Yes, Michael McCormick had two sons called Edward. (odd but true) Edward F and Edward Thomas....I/m 99% sure that the F stands for Francis and if so... that's my problem solved.