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Jamie
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29 Jan 2011 14:13 |
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Got the MC of Michael McCormick and Anne Bourke yesterday. Makes Anne born c. 1830 in Tipperary, Ireland to a Michael Bourke who is listed to be employed as a Gentleman's Servant. Any suggestions on how to go further with the Bourkes?
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Eringobragh1916
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14 Jan 2011 15:03 |
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Jaime...Try checking 1861/71 for Catherine Wilkinson. (Barton St.1881)..that should bring up Wm snr....its the only family with a Wm.Thomas and Alice although there may be others. However I have no idea how old Alice was when she got married which may help...
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Jamie
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14 Jan 2011 13:18 |
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Edward Francis Weston was correct. Two things I"m working on at me moment is his wife Alice Wilkinson and his parents Michael and Ann. The Wilkinson"s are a problem as it seems William Wilkinson (Alice Father) Married had children and died between the 1861 and the 1871 census so that looks like a dead end. As far as Micheal goes he married Anne Bourke in Manchester in 1852 it would seem. I"m waiting for the MC for the fathers name but any help is as always very welcome
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Jamie
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2 Aug 2010 14:25 |
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Yes, Michael McCormick had two sons called Edward. (odd but true) Edward F and Edward Thomas....I/m 99% sure that the F stands for Francis and if so... that's my problem solved.
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Jamie
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2 Aug 2010 14:17 |
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Thanks Linda, yes, i/m pretty sure it is, its just finding a way to confirm it, unfortunately the marriage cert wasn't conclusive. Francis McCormick married Alice Wilkinson in 1883, Alice had a brother William. The marriage cert is witnessed by a Thomas Wilkinson ( brother perhaps?) As her father, also named William is dead. I feel that if I could connect Thomas, William and Alice then I/ll know i have the right Francis McCormick....
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rootgatherer
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2 Aug 2010 14:15 |
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This looks like Your Edward Francis's brother John married?
1891
Name: John McCormick Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England Civil parish: North Meols Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: North Meols ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Halsall 59 Alice Halsall 57 Robert Halsall 33 Alice 7 John McCormick 33 Alice McCormick 27 Margt E McCormick 6 Alice Ann McCormick 5 Mary McCormick 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3039; Folio 164; Page 23; GSU roll: 6098149
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2 Aug 2010 14:10 |
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Now how about this one? They have TWO sons named Edward- so I guess each of them used their middle names!
1871 - London Lane
Name: Edward F A McCormick Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Michael Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: North Meols, Lancashire, England Civil parish: North Meols Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Southport County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: North Meols ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Michael McCormick 39 Tailor, b. Longford, Ireland Ann McCormick 35 b. Tipperary, Irland Michael McCormick 15 b. North Meols, Lancashire, England Christopher L McCormick 13 John J McCormick 11 Edward F A McCormick 8 Margaret E McCormick 7 Edward Thos McCormick 1 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3873; Folio: 134; Page: 24; GSU roll: 842030.
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2 Aug 2010 14:03 |
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I can't find them in 1861 or 1871 either but here is father Michael in 1891.
Name: Michael McCormack Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: North Meols Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 18 High Park Road
Occupation: Tailor
Condition as to marriage: Widower
Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: North Meols ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page
Michael McCormack 63 Widower, Tailor Thomas Barton 22 Son-in-law Magaret E McCormack 23 Daughter William Barton 2/12 Grandson James S McCornack 11 Grandson Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3034; Folio 132; Page 21; GSU roll: 6098144.
Could this be birth for your man?? From Freebmd
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MICKCORMACK Edward Francis Ormskirk 8b 527
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Jamie
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2 Aug 2010 13:35 |
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Jamie
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31 Jul 2010 14:30 |
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Hi, Well it took a whole month before I received the marriage cert. Unfortunately it gave me no more info than already known, the address they were living at is just down as Southport. I/m pretty sure that his name was Edward Francis McCormick and that solves many puzzling questions but have no way to confirm it 100% I guess one way would be to trace it through the Wilkinson's....we know that her name was Alice and she had a brother William. Any suggestions are welcome as usual. // Jamie
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Eringobragh1916
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23 Jun 2010 13:00 |
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Jaime....This may be Francy's bro.1881 census. address is just along the Street to Michael Snr.
Also an Anne McCormick (b 1856) working as a servant in the area.
ousehold Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Michael MC CORMICK Head M Male 25 Southport, Lancashire, England Tailor Mary Ann MC CORMICK Wife M Female 29 Bradford, York, England John Jos. MC CORMICK Son U Male 3 Bradford, York, England James T. MC CORMICK Son U Male 1 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Sarah TARTT Servant M Female 46 Southport, Lancashire, England Charwoman
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 4 Old Park Lane Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341897 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3748 / 15 Page Number 24
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Eringobragh1916
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23 Jun 2010 11:37 |
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Jaime..If this is Francis' Death then he was "Edward Francis"...no wonder I couldn't find him...(Edward corresponds with 1881 census living at home with Parents.)
Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McCormick Edward Francis 33 Ormskirk 8b 542
Michael snr. Died aged 69years Reg.June 1898.
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Eringobragh1916
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22 Jun 2010 23:00 |
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Michael "McCormick" is definately on the 1861 (McCormack) and 1871 census. North Meols... I dont have access ...sorry
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Julie
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22 Jun 2010 20:20 |
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I can't for the life of me find them on the 1871 or 1861
& regarding the different spellings of their surname maybe he (Michael ) was misunderstood cos of his accent
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Jamie
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22 Jun 2010 20:16 |
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Can/t thank you guys enough for the help. The McCormicks have and still are something of a mystery...which is sad as my Grand mother is one...but unfortunatly remembers very little. She married moved to Leicester at a young age and contact with Southport and the McCormicks and Wilkinsons seems to have been completely lost. J
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Eringobragh1916
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22 Jun 2010 19:42 |
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Just for interest..This could be Francy and Alice's Witness (think the son listed would be to young.). No other TS listed on 1881 census. Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability **Thurston SOUTHWORTH Head M Male 44 Walton Le Dale Gardener (Dom) Mary SOUTHWORTH Wife M Female 35 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Gardeners Wife Mary J. SOUTHWORTH Daur U Female 17 Winton, Lancashire, England General Servant Ralph SOUTHWORTH Son U Male 15 Timperly, Cheshire, England Gardeners Assistant William SOUTHWORTH Son Male 13 Timperly, Cheshire, England Drapers Assistant Emily SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 11 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar Thurston SOUTHWORTH Son Male 9 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar Margaret SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 7 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar Eleanor SOUTHWORTH Daur Female 5 Grange Oversands, Lancashire, England Scholar Robert RATCLIFFE Boarder U Male 17 Preston Railway Porter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 29 Percy St Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341897 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3749 / 57 Page Number 12
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22 Jun 2010 19:34 |
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Possible parents of Francy..Also listed for N Meols a ? brother Michael b S.Port. married with family ...occup.Tailor
1881
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Michael MC CORMICK Head M Male 51 Longford, Ireland Tailor Ann MC CORMICK Wife M Female 42 Tipperary, Ireland John MC CORMICK Son U Male 20 Southport, Lancashire, England Bricklayer Edward MC CORMICK Son U Male 18 Southport, Lancashire, England Fowl Butcher
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 196 Bispham Rd Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341897 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3748 / 10 Page Number 14
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22 Jun 2010 19:24 |
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jamie..? Alice and family 1881...
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Catherine WILKINSON Head W Female 40 Southport, Lancashire, England Laundress Thomas WILKINSON Son Male 17 Southport, Lancashire, England Whitesmith Alice WILKINSON Daur Female 15 Southport, Lancashire, England Servant William WILKINSON Son Male 13 Southport, Lancashire, England Scholar Mary J. WILKINSON Daur Female 10 Southport, Lancashire, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 35 Barton St Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341897 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3749 / 66 Page Number 30
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Jamie
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22 Jun 2010 18:09 |
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Thanks ever so much for the help....
I/ve done a search on the net based on info on the Marriage you mention and found this...
Marriage: 18 Jun 1883 St Luke, Southport, Lancashire, England Francis McCormack - 22 Carter Bachelor of Southport Alice Wilkinson - 18 Spinster of Southport Groom's Father: Michael McCormack, Tailor Bride's Father: William Wilkinson, Trainer (deceased) Witness: Thurston Southworth; Thomas Wilkinson Married by: W. H. Marsden Register: Marriages 1883 - 1904, Page 3, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 1849661
It certainly seems about right but is it possible the name is spelt wrong...and twice? //Jamie
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Julie
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22 Jun 2010 14:46 |
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Looks lik you'll be best to by their M/C for his Dads name as i can't find him before the 1891 census
Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%) Howard Mary Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1131 How[a]rd Mary Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1131 Jones Edward Thomas Ormskirk 8b 1131 >>>>>>McCORMACK Francis Ormskirk 8b 1131 >>>>>>Wilkinson Alice Ormskirk 8b 1131
Have just noticed his surname is McCormack
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