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Could anyone help with this please?
The first part is easiest..Can I have a look up on the 1911 census for Edwin Sainsbury born 1859 in Portsea Hants..He appears to be in Weymouth,if this is the right one,but who is he with??
Thank you.
The second part is this..He was born 1859 in Portsea.,His mother is named as Amelia Sainsbury,no father,but there is no marriage for Amelia to have become Sainsbury..
She was born Amelia Stanfield in 1836 Portsea.
The 1861 should have her with parents (step father) George LAMPARD and mother Mary Ann in Portsea.along with siblings William,Keziah,George,Ann,and Sarah
Could someone please look at the 1861 for me to see what it says...what name Amelia gives etc
Thank you for any help

Person: SAINSBURY, Edwin
Institution: HMS Mars,
Military details: Officer's Steward 1st Class Miscellaneous Br 416

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SAINSBURY, Edwin Married 51 1860 Hampshire Portsea

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12373 Reference:
RG14PN12373 RD263 SD3 ED11 SN9999

Registration District:
Weymouth Sub District:
Portland Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Portland

Address:
County:
Dorsetshire


HMS Mars is a 1st class Twin Screw Barbette Battleship

Choccy
Thank you,that seems to be him,as born Portsea.
Lara
Thanks for the description of Mars!

LAMPARD, George Head Married M 41 1820 Shoemaker
Winchester
Hampshire VIEW
LAMPARD, Mary Wife Married F 44 1817 Dressmaker
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, Amelia Daughter Unmarried F 25 1836 House Servant...
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, ... Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 House Servant...
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, George Son M 15 1846 Bootmakers Apprentice
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, Ann Daughter F 11 1850
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, Sarah Daughter F 5 1856
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
SHEWSBURY, Edwin Grandson M 2 1859
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
636 Folio:
129 Page:
21

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
2 Portsea Town Enumeration District:
... Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Portsmouth Address:
8, Southampton Inn, Union Street, Portsea, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire


READS SAINSBURY, NOT SHEWSBURY, ON ORIGINAL

AMELIA IS THE ONLY ONE WITH THE SURNAME SAINSBURY, ALL THE OTHERS ARE LAMPARD. WHOLE THING HAS BEEN MIS-TRANSCRIBED

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
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Lampard George Portsea 7 271
Stanfield Mary Ann Portsea 7 271

Choccy
Thank you...That is the right family,but all the children fromKezia down should have been Lampards,
Seems maybe Amelia was using Sainsbury and it was mis spelt and all the others added to it..
But it shows me that Amelia WAS Sainsbury...perhaps she just took Edwin's father's surname??
Thank you for your help
Lara

Just seen the addition...thank you
Lara

On the original of that 61 census Keziah, George, Ann and Sarah are Lampards. Also I believe Amelia is married.

llara and Choccy, hope you don't mind me adding to your thread but I got intrigued by all the names.

No doubt you have this in 1871

William Stanfield
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 208
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanfield 31
Mary A Lampard 54 mother
George Lampard 51 father in law
Keziah Lampard 27 half sister
George H Lampard 24 half brother
Sarah Lampard 15 half sister
Alfred Lampard 9 half brother
Edwin Sainsbury 11 nephew

Margaret
Thank you..
I have not found a marriage for Amelia to a Sainsbury,so was doubtful if she did marry????
Lara

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start


What about this ?

Name: Amelia Standfield
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jul 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Standfield
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maryann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06261-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 919741
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Margaret is right about 1861 it does look like Amelia is married.
this is Ancestry transcription

Name: George Lampard for 1861
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
George Lampard 41
Mary Lampard 44
Amelia Sainsbury 25
Kaziah Lampard 17
George Lampard 15
Ann Lampard 11
Sarah Lampard 5
Edwin Sainsbury 2

It doesn't look like it unfortunately -


Groom's Name: William Stanfield
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Brown
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1835
Marriage Place: Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06261-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 919755
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

RutlandBelle
Thank you,no I didn't have that census
Odd though,Amelia has vanished
Lara

here she is in 1871
Name: Amelia Sainsbury
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Rigler 28
Louisa Rigler 30
Rigler Under 1 month
Amelia Sainsbury 34 monthly nurse/ married

Choccy
Thank you for the marriage and for Amelia's birth.
Lara

Rutland Belle
Thank you for the 1871 ,so she is still using Sainsbury..
Just can't see a marriage??
Lara

On the 51 census Amelia Stanfield 16 and William Stanfield, 14? are listed as daughter-in-law and son-in-law of George Lampard, meaning stepdaughter and stepson.

Margaret
Thank you...gets a bit confusing,doesn't it...I suppose they mean 'in the eyes of the law'
Lara

Think that marriage between William Standfield and Mary Ann Brown might be correct after all

Here's the 1841 census -


LADDICK, Ruth F 25 1816 VIEW
LADDICK, Amelia F 1 1840 Hampshire VIEW
BROWN, Martha F 45 1796 Hampshire VIEW
BROWN, Harriet F 13 1828 Hampshire VIEW
BROWN, Ann F 9 1832 Hampshire VIEW
BROWN, George M 7 1834 Hampshire VIEW
BROWN, Matilda F 5 1836 Hampshire VIEW
ANDREWS, Jane F 25 1816 Hampshire VIEW
ANDREWS, William M 2 1839 Hampshire VIEW
DODD, Julia F 20 1821 Hampshire VIEW
STANFIELD, Mary F 24 1817 Hampshire VIEW
*******STANFIELD, Amelia F 5 1836 Hampshire VIEW
STANFIELD, William M 2 1839 Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
415 Book/Folio:
1/29 Page:
22

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
Portsea Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Portsmouth Address:
Britain Street, Portsea, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire