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CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 19:54

Certificates can be bought online from the GRO

www.gro.gov.uk

You will need to register with a password, etc but once you've done that you can order.

Remember to click that you know what the GRO reference is.

The GRO details you will need to enter are

Year - 1873
Certificate type - marriage
Name - Thomas Tuck
Registration district - Bedwelty
Quarter - Jan-Mar
Vol No - 11a
Page No 101

This will cost £9.25 and should take 7-10 days to arrive.

Once you have the father's name and occupation from the certificate it will be easier to trace the family in the census.

Let us know how you get on.

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jul 2010 19:15

where do i get one of these from,thanks for your hard work ladies.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 15:14

This is possibly the other Thomas Tuck registered in Cricklade 1853/1854 in 1861

1861 England Census
about Thomas Tuck
Name: Thomas Tuck
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: W Bassett, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Wootton Bassett
Town: Wootton Bassett
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Cricklade
Sub-registration district: Wootton Bassett

Elizabeth Tuck 30 ....widow....dressmaker....born Wootton Basset
Thomas Tuck 8


Interestingly, the household on either side of this has a bootmaker living in it, so perhaps Thomas could have got his 'foot in the door' (pardon the pun) to the trade from there. Or perhaps his deceased father was also a bootmaker.

There is this death registered in the Highworth registration district - same district as the 1861 census posted by Catherine - for a Thomas Tuck, so possibly the child of Isaac and Jane died??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Tuck
Name: Thomas Tuck
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 15
District: Highworth
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 10



There is also a tree on Ancestry that gives a Thomas Tuck, marrying a Margaret A ? and living in Bedwellty - mother Elizabeth Maskelyne but no father given.


This is possibly the marriage for this lady to another Thomas Tuck

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
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Mandee Robert Cricklade &c 8 587
*******Maskelyne Elizabeth Cricklade &c 8 587
Mundee Robert Cricklade 8 587
******Tuck Thomas Cricklade &c 8 587
YORKE Sarah Cricklade 8 587



Either one of these 1861's could be a possible so I really think the marriage certificate is necessary to be 100% sure.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 13:57

These two were in the same registration district - Cricklade covers Swindon/Wootton Bassett, so the earlier IGI entry found by Catherine may well be linked into the family somehow.

Births Mar 1854
Tuck Thomas Cricklade 5a 24

Births Sep 1855
Tuck Thomas Cricklade 5a 19

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:57

Possible 1861 (father is a Boot and Shoe Maker)

Name: Thomas Tuck
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Christian Magna, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Swindon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Swindon
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Highworth
Sub-registration district: Swindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 12e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Tuck 42 - born: Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
Jane Tuck 40 - born: Cliffe Pyhard, Wiltshire
Isaac Tuck 10
Jane Tuck 9
Thomas Tuck 7
Ann Tuck 4
Esther Tuck 2
Elizabeth Tuck 11 Mo

possible as in one of the census records birth place is given as Swindon.............but as Ninjalady says you will need the marriage cert. to confirm!

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:52

2 possible births for father Thomas:-

Births Sep 1853 (>99%)
TUCK Thomas Chippenham 5a 59

Births Mar 1854 (>99%)
Tuck Thomas Cricklade 5a 24

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 13:52

You're right Andrew - there were two Thomas Tucks registered a year apart in the same registration district.

Your best bet would probably be to get the marriage certificate for Thomas Tuck (the shoemaker) to get his father's name

Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
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??????????BARRETT Margaret Ann Bedwelty 11a 101
HARRIS William Bedwelty 11a 101
JONES Mary Bedwelty 11a 101
Thomas Thomas Bedwelty 11a 101
?????Tuck Thomas Bedwelty 11a 101

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 13:48

Ah, I see where Laindon has come from

1871 Wales Census
about Thomas Tuck
Name: Thomas Tuck
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Laindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Tredegar
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar

Elias Ford Hutchings 36
Amelia Hannah Hutchings 28
Anny Pearce Hutchings 4
Annie Emma Hutchings 2
Matilda J Hutchings 1
John Pearce 15
******Thomas Tuck 18 ....bootmaker
Elizabeth Lewis 23
Izatt Pearce 65
John Thomas 55


I would still say the original looks more like Swindon.

He was an apprentice to Elias Ford Hutchings who was a Boot Manufacturer.

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jul 2010 13:46

when looked him up there was two entries for that name,but was the same family very miss leading.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 13:40

Possible for 1881??

1881 Wales Census
about Thomas Tuck
Name: Thomas Tuck
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Margret Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Tredegar, Monmouth, Wales

Civil parish: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 28 Queen Square
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Tuck 28 .....shoemaker....born Wiltshire
Margret Ann Tuck 27
Thomas Tuck 5
Fredrick Tuck 3
Mary A. Tuck


AHA - it was the father who was the shoemaker born in Wiltshire!!
Looks more like Swindon to me though.

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:40

1901
Name: Thomas Alfred Tuck
Age in 1901: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Ebbw Vale
Ecclesiastical parish: Cwm St Paul
Town: Cwm
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Alfred Tuck 25 -
Elizabeth Ann Tuck 24
Gertrude Evelyn Tuck 6
Percival Ivor Tuck 5
Arthur Tuck 3

............but he's a Coal Miner Hewer?


1891
Name: Thomas A Tuck
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret A
Gender: Male
Where born: Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Tredegar
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 14 Prospect Place
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Tuck 38 - born: Shaw, Wiltshire, England (SHOEMAKER)
Margaret A Tuck 37
Thomas A Tuck 15
Frederick Tuck 13
Arthur Tuck 7
Florence E Tuck 1


1871
Name: Thomas Tuck
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Laindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar
Town: Tredegar
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 290
Household Members:
Name Age
Elias Ford Hutchings 36
Amelia Hannah Hutchings 28
Anny Pearce Hutchings 4
Annie Emma Hutchings 2
Matilda J Hutchings 1
John Pearce 15
Thomas Tuck 18 - BOOT MAKER
Elizabeth Lewis 23
Izatt Pearce 65
John Thomas 55

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jul 2010 13:38

thats the family,TUCK, Thomas Alfred 'father was also called thomas & thats when all the information goth lost.
thanks

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:38

Are you sure he was born in Wiltshire:-

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Tuck Thomas Alfred Bedwelty 11a 99

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:37

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Coles Edwin Bedwelty 11a 125
Lewis Elizabeth Rachel Bedwelty 11a 125
Stephens Elizabeth Ann Bedwelty 11a 125
Tuck Thomas Alfred Bedwelty 11a 125

the cert. will give you his father's name and occupation which will help find him in other census records.

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jul 2010 13:36

i reserched a few years ago,then lost all my findings,i sure i read that he was from that area.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 5 Jul 2010 13:35

If this is the correct family in 1911 - then he gives place of birth as Tredegar

TUCK, Thomas Alfred Head Married M 35 1876 Colliery Examiner Below Ground Monmouthshire Tredegar
TUCK, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married 17 years F 35 1876 Monmouthshire Sirboury
TUCK, Gertrude Evelyn Daughter Single F 16 1895 School Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale
TUCK, Percival Ivor Son Single M 15 1896 School Monmouthshire Cwm
TUCK, Arthur Son M 13 1898 Assisting At Traffic Machine Monmouthshire Cwm
TUCK, Mavis Daughter F 9 1902 Monmouthshire Cwm
TUCK, Kenneth Son M 6 1905 Monmouthshire Cwm

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31820 Reference:
RG14PN31820 RG78PN1832 RD585 SD1 ED7 SN5

Registration District:
Bedwellty Sub District:
Aberystruth Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Ebbw Vale

Address:
7 Newport Houses Cwm Mon

EDIT - for ref - think Elizabeth's place of birth should probably be Sirhowy.



This would probably be the birth registration for this guy

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Tuck Thomas Alfred Bedwelty 11a 99

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jul 2010 13:31

he married elizebeth stephens born c 1875 they had children,gertrude,arthur,kenneth all from cwm bedwellty

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:30

from familysearch ?

Tom Tuck - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 FEB 1875 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England
Father: Frederick Tuck
Mother: Kerenhappuch Hunt

(but submitted entry!)

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:28

Only birth I could see for Wiltshire:-

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
Tuck Thomas Pole Cirencester 6a 384

What makes you think he was born in Laindon?

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Jul 2010 13:26

Do you know anything about him?

Parents, siblings, did he marry,if yes who did he marry?