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If your thinking is what I imagine it to be......based on a posting on one of your other many Yallop threads..................

Lovell | Sir | Alfred Charles Bernard | b1913 | radio astronomer ... Britannica.com and Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc: Lovell, Sir (Alfred Charles) Bernard

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Lovell Alfred C B Adams Keynsham 5c 885

Thanks for your hard work. Just been given some info from a relative, think I should leave this alone. Think we know who it is, and probably not a good idea to carry on. Thanks anyway.

There are a few Yallop/Yallop births, if your theory is correct he must be one of those I suppose.

This is the nearest guess but I am starting to feel you might never know:

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Yallop Raymond Yallop Barnet 3a 677

Jan

Sandra,

The Lovell name comes from the adoptee parents??? If not from where then.


Dee x

Can't see a Bernard Yallop with MMN Yallop birth anywhere, even using phonetic search. Just a guess, but if Bernard were "adopted" his name might have been changed completely - he could be Walter. Impossible to say unless we find Walter elsewhere!

EDIT curses!! Just saw the "brilliant" - thanks but not so it seems!

Jan

Argh........... poop!! Discount that theory;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Walter H Yallop
Name: Walter H Yallop
Death Registration Month/Year: 1918
Age at death (estimated): 8
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 986


Very sad.


Dee x

Brilliant Jan!!! Do you think that Walter could be Bernard???

If Bernard was adopted then maybe his name was changed???

Dee x

Walter above is only 6 months old, not 6 - clear on image.

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
YALLOP Walter H Poplar 1c 541

Well, might be her with a son - image has "son" crossed out:

ROVER, Henry Head Married M 27 1884 Carman Middlesex Limehouse VIEW
GROVER, Isabella Wife Married
7 years F 27 1884 London Mile End VIEW
GROVER JUN, Henry Son M 6 1905 Poplar VIEW
GROVER, William Son M 4 1907 Poplar VIEW
GROVER, Benjamin Son M 2 1909 Poplar VIEW
YALLOP, Rebecca Boarder Single F 23 1888 Box Maker Mile End VIEW
YALLOP, Walter Boarder M 6 1905 Poplar VIEW
GIBBS, Mary Boarder Widow F 59 1852 Nurse Shadwell VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1729 Reference:
RG14PN1729 RG78PN60 RD22 SD3 ED13 SN134

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Poplar Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
6 Hale Street Poplar E County:
London

She was Rebecca Yallop, born 1888. She Married Frank Day in 1920.

Hi,

so if he was born out of wedlock then his surname would be Yallop and it would also show mothers maiden as Yallop..........like you say though none showing.

So can we go back a bit please.... what was his mothers full name prior to marriage and who did she marry?


Dee x

They were definately an Eastend family, he was born out of wedlock, they remember him visiting with papers to be signed. He may have been registered as a Lovell (don't know who his father was.) or possibly as a Yallop. They are adament that he was, or possibly still is a Lovell. (They are elderly, and it is difficult to get full information, but they would love to find him.

Well, onm the off-chance, but you need more info really:

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Lavell Bernard Henry H Edmonton 3a 522

Why are you dismissing this? I don't understand. Who is supposed to have adopted him?
Jan

Also he would have been born in London I think.

Thanks, I don't think so, my Aunts, his half sisters remember him visiting. His mother was a Yallop, but they say he was adopted, and his name was Lovell, can't find birth details in any of these names.

Depends how much "around" 1913 it is - there are quite a few.
Jan

It would help if you told us where?

Found this one on Ancestry, but this is also on Freebmd, so you must have discounted it.

Name: Bernard H Lovell
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: West
District: Swansea
County: Glamorgan, West Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 2297 (click to see others on page)


George

Hi Sandra,

not this one then?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Lovell Bernard H West Swansea 11a 2297


Dee x