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27 Aug 2010 08:38 |
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8 Aug 2010 01:45 |
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Thanks for this generous offer trudianne, this is what I have so far - x
the parents of my Grandfather on my father's side -
Charles Albert ROSENHAIN, b: Feb 5th 1864, probably Castlemaine, Victoria, d: April 11th, 1938 Adelaide. married: Elizabeth DAVIS b: March 16th,1868 - Castlemaine, d:1945, Victoria
Elizabeth's parents - Richard DAVIS b:circa 1840 - perhaps UK? d: circa 1905. married: Elizabeth Annie HILDEBRANDT of Germany, 25th Feb, 1862, Christ Church, Castlemaine Victoria.
my grandpa -Oscar Richard ROSENHAIN b: Adelaide March 20th, 1893 d: Adelaide 1968.
The GG grandparents on my Mother's side -
Johann Frederick Marcus DAU from Hamburg, Germany: born circa 1826, died Adelaide, South Australia 1905.
married in - St Andrews Church, Adelaide, Jan 1855 to Fredericka Christiana BAHLS, Germany, b: circa 1817, died Adelaide, 1905.
G Grandparents: Son - Carl Alfed DAU ( sometimes known as Charls Daw) b: Adelaide, March 1859. d: 17 November 1936, Adelaide. married Elizabeth GOBLE 15th October 1894, Adelaide.(noter spelling of Goble here but in other sources it is Gobel or Gobell)
Children..Carl 1822-1846, Florence 1882-1883, Emily 1884 -1907, Lilly, 1887 - Frederich and George 1891-1891
and my Grandmother on my mother's side -
EDITH MYRTLE DAU, b: June 29th,1893 d: August 22nd,1987
married: Peter James CLARN of London, UK, August 9th, 1914 at the The Baptist Manse, Flinder street Adelaide.
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27 Jul 2010 08:30 |
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Pam,
Can you give me the name of your grandfather, date of birth & his place of death & date, then maybe we can trace more details from there.
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27 Jul 2010 04:23 |
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I haven't but I certainly will now.
Thanks
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Gael
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27 Jul 2010 02:17 |
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Have you tried this site
http://www.coraweb.com.au/bdmau.htm
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Vicci
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27 Jul 2010 01:57 |
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come back when you've got Elizabeth's marriage cert and maybe her death cert.
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27 Jul 2010 00:53 |
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WOW! Thanks for all of that, I don't know if they are related or not but will certainly hang on to all that wonderful info until I work it all out.
Thanks again, as they say, "everything is out there if you just know where to look".
Thanks again, P
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27 Jul 2010 00:16 |
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Joseph Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Age: 30 Arrival Date: 31 Jan 1854 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg, Germany Ship: Johan Cesar
Jacob Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Age: 39 Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1855 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg Ship: Hamburgh Nationality: German
Jacob Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Age: 32 Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1855 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg Ship: Hamburgh Nationality: Netherlander
Ph Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Age: 37 Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1855 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg Ship: Hamburgh Nationality: German
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27 Jul 2010 00:05 |
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T H H Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Age: 23 Arrival Date: 19 Mar 1855 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg, Germany Ship: Hamburgh
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27 Jul 2010 00:00 |
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not Elizabeth but a relative maybe?????
Juliane Hildebrandt Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Age: 16 Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1855 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: Hamburg Ship: Hamburgh Nationality: Netherlander
Source: PROV, VPRS 7667, Inward Overseas Passenger Lists (Foreign Ports) [Microfiche Copy of VPRS 947]
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc., 2009. Original data:
# Victoria. Inward Overseas Passenger Lists (British Ports). Microfiche VPRS 7666, copy of VRPS 947. Public Record Office Victoria, North Melbourne, Victoria.
# Victoria. Inward Overseas Passenger Lists (Foreign Ports). Microfiche VPRS 7667, copy of VRPS 947. Public Record Office Victoria, North Melbourne, Victoria.
# Victoria. Inward Overseas Passenger Lists (New Zealand Ports). Microfiche VPRS 13439, copy of VRPS 947. Public Record Office Victoria, North Melbourne, Victoria.
# Victoria. Register of Assisted Immigrants from the United Kingdom. Microfiche VPRS 14. Public Record Office Victoria, North Melbourne, Victoria.
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26 Jul 2010 23:44 |
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Thank you so much for your help.
No, all family history but little was said about Victoria either! I knew some of the family were there ofcourse, but hadn't found the connection as to why.
I also knew they had one daughter, called Elizabeth also, and she married Charles Rosenhain. Together they had five kids and my Grandpa was one of them.
Now if only I could get some info about how she came to be in Australia in the first place?
Thanks so much for your generousity in finding this for me.
P
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26 Jul 2010 13:41 |
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Pam,
I have checked and have been unable to find a death of Elizabeth in 1915, do you have her death certificate, or is it just what family have told you?
All the previous information that I sent was found in Victoria.
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trudianne
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26 Jul 2010 13:17 |
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Hi Pam,
I presume you have these details, if you get their marriage certificate it should give details of parents names. If you go to the website that Victoria gave you, you can download an image direct to your computer for about $A20.00.
Surname: Davis Given Names: Richard Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Hildebrandt Spouses Given Names: Elizabeth Year: 1862 Reg No: 91
the children of the above marriage
Surname: Davis Given Names: Mary Ann Event: Birth Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Eliza Hilderbrandt Birthplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1863 Reg No: 13164
and her death
Surname: Davis Given Names: Mary Ann Event: Death Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Elizabeth Hilderbrand Age: 9 Deathplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1873 Reg No: 6362
Surname: Davis Given Names: Richard Event: Birth Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Elizabeth Hilderbrandt Birthplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1866 Reg No: 1172
and his death
Surname: Davis Names: Richard Event: Death Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Elizth Hilderbrent Deathplace: Malvern Age: 57 Yr: 1923 Reg No: 2230
Surname: Davis Given Names: Annie Katharina Event: Birth Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Eliza Hilderbrandt Birthplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1870 Reg No: 7522
and her death
Surname: Davis Names: Annie Catherine Event: Death Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Name: Elizabeth Hilderbrand Age: 20 mths Deathplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1871 Reg No: 7958
Surname: Davis Given Names: Catherine Jane Event: Birth Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Elizabeth Hildebrandt Birthplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1872 Reg No: 1263
and sadly her death too
Surname: Davis Names: Catherine Jane Event: Death Fathers Name: Richard Mothers Names: Elizabeth Hilderbrandt Age: 2 Deathplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1875 Reg No: 6065
I have been unable to find a marriage of Elizabeth to Charles/Carl Rosenhain, or any children born, but found her death
Surname: Rosenhain Given Names: Elizabeth Event: Death Fathers Surname: Davis Fathers Name: Richd Mothers Names: Rubina E Hildebrande Deathplace: East Brighton Age: 77 Year: 1946 Reg No: 230
??????????????Possibility of Elizabeth's mothers death
Surname: Davis Given Names: Elizabeth Event: Death Fathers Name: Unknown Mothers Names: Unknown Age: 78 Deathplace: Castlemaine Yr: 1910 Reg No: 999
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Pam
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26 Jul 2010 12:30 |
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Thanks Gael, that's a good start.
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Gael
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26 Jul 2010 09:03 |
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Possible birth ???
Name: Elisabeth Hildebrandt Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 04 May 1840 Baptism/Christening Place: Putzig, Westpreußen, Preußen, Germany Father's Name: Joseph Hildebrandt Mother's Name: Marianna Kaschnb Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03654-8 System Origin: Germany-EASy Source Film Number: 531387 Reference Number: 70 Collection: Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
added: but take Victoria's advice for a marriage cert for parents names.
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26 Jul 2010 09:02 |
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search for BMD's in VIC https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria
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26 Jul 2010 08:59 |
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do you have her death certificate, it usually gives alot of info about her family eg parents, where she was born, how long in Australia etc
her marriage cert should also give parents names
??? Castlemaine NSW or do you mean Victoria????
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26 Jul 2010 08:23 |
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Elizabeth Annie HILDEBRANDT. I am searching for any information about this woman please.
I do not know where she was born (c.1840), but she lived in Victoria, Australia, and died in 1915. She married Richard Davis, Feb 25th, 1862, in Castlemaine, Victoria. They had at least one child, a daughter Elizabeth 1868-1945, who married Charles (Carl) ROSENHAIN in Castlemaine, Victoria on Nov 20th 1885.
Many thanks, Pam
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