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Confused about a middle name

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Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:07

Hi everyone

I have a bit of a mystery really - although it may be just me that thinks this.

My relative Henry Bales married Rebecca Stevenson on 23 January 1863 in Lambeth but the only birth I can find which would fit her in 1842 around the Lambeth area is for a Rebecca Swan Stevenson - however the marriage certificate I have for Rebecca and Henry appears to show her name as Maria - any help would be gratefully received.

Many thanks

Flick

Flick Report 7 Aug 2010 16:10

As there was no penalty until 1875 for NOT registering births, the person you are researching may simply not have been registered

Flick

Flick Report 7 Aug 2010 16:11

Quite clearly MARIA for the second name of the one Henry married

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
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BALES Henry Lambeth 1d 298
GUMMER George Lambeth 1d 298
STEVENSON Rebecca Maria Lambeth 1d 298

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Aug 2010 16:11

What was Rebecca's father's name and occupation please?

Flick

Flick Report 7 Aug 2010 16:12

Where was Rebecca born?

What was her father's name?

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:13


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Marriages Dec 1839 (>99%)
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Cook William St George Southwark 4 456
CURTIS George St. Geo. Southwark 4 456
Pankhurst Mary Ann Bridget St. Geo. Southwk. 4 456
SAVAGE Henrta St. Geo. Southwark 4 456
SINGER John St. Geo. Southwark 4 456
..............STEVENSON Thomas St. Geo Southk 4 456
..............SWAN Rebecca St. Geo. Southwk 4 456
WICKS Mary Ann Brasier St. Geo. Southwark 4 456

Looks like Rebecca mums maiden name was Swan.......so maybe she look another one for her marriage....

Regards Vera

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:13

Hi Flick

Didn't think of that - it's just that on the baptism records it shows her dad as Thomas and the marriage cert shows the same name and also the profession is the same - shoemaker business.

Thanks

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:14

?????

1851
Rebecca Stevenson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Female
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Southwark St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 181
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Stevenson 33
Rebecca Stevenson 31
Rebecca Stevenson 9
Thomas Stevenson 8
George Stevenson 7


Regards Vera

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:14

Sorry I didn't see all the other messages - her dad's name is Thomas and was a shoemaker, according to the Census' she was born Walworth, Lambeth

Thanks

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:15

On the 1851 I showed you her father is a shoemaker and chandler.

Regards Veea

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:15

Hi Vera

I think that is her - but all the children have swan as a middle name on the baptisms on Ancestry

Thanks
x

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Aug 2010 16:16

There's this baptism on Ancestry.

Name: Rebecca Mary Maria Stevenson
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Oct 1846
Father's Name: William Stevenson
Mother's Name: Ann Stevenson
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Christine

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 7 Aug 2010 16:17

Do know Rebecca's fathers name.

Name: Rebecca Mary Maria Stevenson
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Oct 1846
Father's Name: William Stevenson
Mother's Name: Ann Stevenson
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:18

Hi

No her dad's name is Thomas - this is shown on the marriage certificate

Thanks
x

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:18

Looks like all of the second names were their mothers maiden names.

That doesn't mean they would always the middle name .
Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:20

On the 1851 I showed you........... everything fits fathers name and occupation.....What do you think?

Regards Vera

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:30

Hi Vera

I think that this is her on the 1851 census that you found but I am still confused as to why she would have Maria on the marr cert as her middle name - and I can't find a birth with Maria as a middle name for the time that she would have been born - the only one is with Swan, so if they are the same person why would her middle name on the marr cert not be Swan?

Thanks

x

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 16:36

Middy,
You can put whatever names you like on a marriage certificate...maybe she didn't like Swan and decided on Maria.....my grandmother was born Annie Maud...but on her marriage certificate she is Vera Ann !!!


Regards Vera

Middy

Middy Report 7 Aug 2010 16:57

That is true Vera just don't know whether I am then heading off in the wrong/right direction

Regards

xx

Vera

Vera Report 7 Aug 2010 17:16

Here they are in 1841...

address Pleasant Place as on the baptism record.....

Thomas Stevenson
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil parish: St Mary Newington
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Mary Newington
Sub-registration district: St Peters
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age


Thomas Stevenson 20 shoemaker
Rebecca Stevenson 20
Rebecca Stevenson 5weeks



Obviously you have to decide for yourself.....but personally I think we have the right one....


Regards Vera