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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 22:38

I'm trying to find the marriage of Gertrude Snowden born 1879 in Liverpool, UK. She later lived in USA and I'm wondering if she married there. I think she had at least one daughter, also called Gertrude. I can't find a marriage for her in UK.

Thanks.
Yvonne

patchem

patchem Report 1 Sep 2010 22:55

For background:
1881:
Gertrude Snowdon
Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter John Snowdon Mother's Name: Jessie C. Snowdon Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 84 Gladstone Rd Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
John Snowdon 33
Jessie C. Snowdon 31
Charles E. Snowdon 9
William F. Snowdon 8
Jessie Snowdon 7
Josephine Snowdon 4
John Herbert Snowdon 3
Gertrude Snowdon 1
Elizabeth Cook 16
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3710; Folio: 32; Page: 19; GSU roll: 1341888.

1891 England Census
Gertrude Snowden
Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Snowden
Mother's Name: Jessie C Snowden
Gender: Female Where born: Lanc, Liverpool vil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Cyprian
County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, institution, or vessel: 28
John Snowden 42
Jessie C Snowden 40
Charles E Snowden 19
William F Snowden 18
Jessie Snowden 17
Josephine Snowden 14
John H Snowden 13
Gertrude Snowden 11
James Snowden 9
Catherine E Snowden 7
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2993; Folio 78; Page 19; GSU roll: 6098103.

When do you think she went to the USA?
Thanks

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 23:02

Hi Patricia

This is the correct family. I have no idea when she went to the USA. I have a photo of her in Liverpool in 1904 and 1908 for siblings' weddings, which say Gertie from USA, so it would be before then.

Thanks
Yvonne

Jacky

Jacky Report 1 Sep 2010 23:13

this looks like a POSSIBLE for your lady she travelled alone & it states that her mother paid the fare & she was heading for
199 eighth ave new york


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about MS. Gertrude Snowdon
Name: MS. Gertrude Snowdon
Arrival Date: 20 Aug 1903
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 22 Years 11 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic


maybe she travelled back for wedding,s ???

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Sep 2010 23:15

1881 - from another angle!!!

John SNOWDON Head M Male 33 Melmerby, Cumberland, England Mercht Clerk
Jessie C. SNOWDON Wife M Female 31 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Charles E. SNOWDON Son Male 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
William F. SNOWDON Son Male 8 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Jessie SNOWDON Daur Female 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Josephine SNOWDON Daur Female 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Herbert SNOWDON Son Male 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Gertrude SNOWDON Daur Female 1 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth COOK Ser U Female 16 Runcorn, Cheshire, England Gen Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling 84 Gladstone Rd
Census Place West Derby, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341888
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3710 / 32
Page Number 19

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Sep 2010 23:16



Gertrude Snowden Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 13 JAN 1880 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: John Snowden Family
Mother: Jessie Catherine

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 1 Sep 2010 23:18

Gertrude SNOWDEN
Birth Date: 10 Apr 1879
Death Date: Jul 1968
Social Security Number: 403-72-0932
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Kentucky

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 40220
Localities: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 23:18

This is a strong possibility. Another one of her siblings was married in NY so it's quite possible she could've gone out there.

Thanks.
Yvonne

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 23:20

The baptism is correct for her but I don't think the Kentucky one is - unless the birth was in Liverpool.

Thanks.
Yvonne

Jacky

Jacky Report 1 Sep 2010 23:21

there is something else wrote above the address on the ship,s log but it badley writen it could be either mr or mrs moorhouse ???
maybe someone else has ancesrty that canbtake alook see if they can make it out

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 1 Sep 2010 23:27

This must be her birth to help narrow things down.

Births Dec 1879
Snowdon Gertrude W. Derby 8b 609

Rose

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 23:30

The birth is correct. She was definitely born in W. Derby to parents John Snowden and Jessie Catherine Donaldson.

Jacky, where did you see the ship's log?

Thanks
Yvonne

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 1 Sep 2010 23:32

Sorry, have to go off-line for a while. Will check back later.

Thanks everybody.
Yvonne

Jacky

Jacky Report 1 Sep 2010 23:35

i logged onto ancestry.co.uk & typed in gertrude snowdon & it gives all possibles & halfwy down it says new york passenger list 1820-1857 click on that & shes the only one
jacky

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Sep 2010 23:43

It's on the Ellis Island site, which is free, although you ahve to register in order to view


It's a very easy site to use



Original Ship's Manifest for Gertrude Snowdon Aug 20 1903

Professional Dancer

was also in US the previous August

Bit confused, but it says Going to Mrs Moorhouse 199 Eighth Avenue New York, Mr Wrigth, Auburn, NY is also mentioned




sylvia

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 2 Sep 2010 00:49

I'm back. Thanks to you all for the info. I'll check out the passenger lists mentioned. I'll have to try and follow up on Mrs. Moorhouse - I wonder if it was some kind of lodging house.

Thanks.
Yvonne

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2010 02:49

Do you have dates for the weddings in 1904 and 1908?

Rose

Jacky

Jacky Report 2 Sep 2010 08:35

POSSIBLE marriage for her siblings

Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
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COLLINS George Edward W Derby 8b 691
Farrer John W. Derby 8b 691
Jennings Lilian W. Derby 8b 691
>>>>>>>>Snowdon Catherine Emily W. Derby 8b 691







Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
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DAVIS Helen W. Derby 8b 639
GRIFFITHS Joseph Mills W. Derby 8b 639
>>>>>>>>SNOWDON Josephine W. Derby 8b 639





put theses on as possible,s as they both appear on the 1891 census with gertrude


Yvonne

Yvonne Report 4 Sep 2010 01:30

Hi
Sorry, I didn't see the last two replies to my thread. The wedding in 1904 (22 Aug) was John Farrer and Catherine Emily Snowdon, and the one in 1908 was Joseph Mills Griffiths and Josephine Snowdon (don't have the actual date).

Again, thanks for your help.

Yvonne

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 8 Sep 2010 15:53

I've been working on the info you all kindly gave me about Gertrude Snowdon. Working on the trip she made to the USA in 1903 I've tried to find her marriage but had no success. I did mention in an earlier thread that she had a daughter, Gertrude, but I've since found out that that daughter belonged to another sibling but she did have a daughter called Trixie. Does anyone have access to US marriages or census?

Thanks.
Yvonne