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I know you are aware of Frank's wife but in case you don't have the certificate........


Marriages Sep 1930 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

KERSHAW Frank W - Smallman Manchester S 8d 342
Smallman Gladys L - Kershaw Manchester S. 8d 342

Thank you for your time Astra. Think I will have to do a bit more work on her.

Thanks Tempest. No! I'm not certain she married. Suppose I sort of took it for granted. Will take a look.

thank you Mike. I didn't realise I could do that so will give it a try.

Hi are you sure Edith married?

there is a tree on ancestry which says she died in 2005, there is no spouse listed for her. It also has details for Edmund Clifford

If applying to the Manchester office,...

You could order the marriage cert on condition it has the correct age (give or take a year or so) and father's name.

If this is her birth you need to be looking for Edith E Kershaw in
the marriage listings. I have been through the Lancashire OPC
and can't find one listed for her there.

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
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Kershaw Edith Elizabeth Chorlton 8c 905

Hi again. Could anyone give me any tips as to how I can find someones marriage without sending for several certificates. I am looking for the marriage of Edith Kershaw who was born in Manchester South in 1908. She is the sister of Frank Weyton (1909), Edmund Clifford (1911) and Eric Gilbert (1914) Kershaw. Her mothers maiden name was Mary Lane. I believe she went to live in Scotland at some point but don't know if it was before or after her marriage (although would guess after). I have found 4 possible matches in either Manchester South or North but don't really want to send for all 4 certificates if possible. I don't even know if she had any family. Thank you.

Birth: Kershaw Eric G Lane Prestwich 8d 886 JAS 1914.

Is it possible that Clifford was actually his middle name?

After 1912 mother's maiden name is included in the GRO index.

You can look for free on this site:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

I looked for a Kershaw baby with a Lane mother, as I didn't find him with a Lane mother when I searched for Clifford Kershaw.

KERSHAW Edmund C Lane Chorlton 8c 1304 JAS 1911.

MARRIAGE:
Kershaw Edmund C Wall Manchester S. 8d 627 JAS 1935.
>>Wall Edna Kershaw Manchester S. 8d 627 JAS 1935.

Death:
>>>Name: Edmund Clifford Kershaw
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1999
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: B48B
District and Subdistrict: 0031B
Entry number: 117

Hello again,

I am now having trouble locating Clifford Kershaw. I unfortunately have no idea of his DOB or year of marriage. I do know that it would have been after 1911 as he is not mentioned in the census. I also know that Clifford and his wife (Edna i believe?) adopted a daugher.

Does anybody have any top tips for trying to find somebody when you have such limited information (as this is not the only person I need to find that i know about but have no information about!)?

many thanks
Tina

Just found this Tina...

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)
Kershaw Eric G Slaven Barton 8c 1119
Slaven Alice Kershaw Barton 8c 1119

You are welcome, if you need anymore help with this family, just come back and continue on this thread. Susan.

Susan, George,

Thank you so much for your help - it has really helped and is very much appreciated.

Tina x

Hi Tina, you can order online at ....GRO Register Office.
Certificates are £9.25 inc Postage.

You will be asked if you know the district and GRO index which is the Vol and Page No.
Which in your case is...
Rochdale Vol 8e Page 31

Good luck.

On the original image of the 1911 for Frank Snr, it has....

Industry or Service with which worker is connected.
Manager - Bioscope Trade.

I thought you might be interested in this....

A Bioscope show was a fairground attraction consisting of a travelling cinema. The heyday of the Bioscope was from the late 1890s until World War I.

Bioscope shows were fronted by the largest fairground organs[1], and these formed the entire public face of the show . A stage was usually in front of the organ, and dancing girls would entertain the crowds between film shows[2].

Films shown in the Bioscope were primitive, and the earliest of these were made by the showmen themselves. Later, films were commercially produced.

Bioscope shows were integrated, in Britain at least, into the Variety shows in the huge Music Halls which were built at the end of the nineteenth century.

After the Music Hall Strike of 1907 in London, bioscope operators set up a trade union to represent them. There were about seventy operators in London at this point.

Susan

Hi Michael,

thank you so much for your speedy reply. can you offer any advice as to the best way to get hold of the certificates? (i really am a true beginner?)

thank you again

It seems Mary preferred her middle name Alice.........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: KERSHAW, Frank
Address: 113 Crofton ST


KERSHAW, Frank Head Married M 36 1875 Manager Lanc Rochdale VIEW
KERSHAW, Alice Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Lanc Ballow VIEW
KERSHAW, Edith Daughter Single F 3 1908 Lanc Manchester VIEW
KERSHAW, Frank Son Single M 2 1909 Lanc Rochdale VIEW
LANE, Nellie Sister In Law Single F 20 1891 Buttonholer Lanc Manchester VIEW
LANE, Kelty Sister In Law Single F 18 1893 Buttonholer Lanc Manchester VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23679 Reference:
RG14PN23679 RG78PN1377 RD464 SD1 ED22 SN181

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Didsbury Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
South Manchester

Address:
113 Crofton ST County:
Lancashire

Possible for Eric

Although not a pilot , but parents match

KERSHAW, ERIC GILBERT
Initials: E G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 7 Sqdn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 07/08/1942
Service No: 1360538
Additional information: Son of Frank William and Mary Alice Kershaw; husband of Alice Anne Kershaw.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Coll. grave 9. G. 10-12.
Cemetery: REICHSWALD FOREST WAR CEMETERY


George

and his father was William Frank


Marriages Jun 1907

KERSHAW William Frank - Chorlton 8c 1408
LANE Mary Alice - Chorlton 8c 1408

This cert would give you the couple's ages, occupation and father's names and occupations.