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Hi, thanks Ann and Anne Marie, I will go for that one and see what comes back.

Kathy

Not finding anything in 1861 - I think it would be worth investing in that birth certificate **Ann** found.

What about this birth??


BELL Robert Henry Morpeth 10b 285 1864

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Hi Anne, thanks for the census, yes it is odd, but I suppose it happened! I wonder does she say she is a widow in 1871. If you could find her in 1861 we still might get her husbands name.
Thanks for taking the time to help
Kathy

Kathleen, I don't think the people on the census gave their birth year to the enumerator -I believe they would have given their age at the time. The enumerator would then work out the birth year from that, which accounts for the variations we see.

Kathleen, here they are in 1871. Original image for Isabella says Barnard Castle.

BELL, Isabella Head F 35 1836 Yorkshire
BELL, William Son M 13 1858 Codurham
BELL, Robert Henery Son M 7 1864 Northumberland
BELL, John Son M 4 1867 Northumberland
BELL, Elizabeth Jane Daughter F 0 1871 Northumberland
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5166 Folio:
133 Page:
45

Registration District:
Morpeth Sub District:
Bedlington Enumeration District:
10 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Bedlington Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stakeford Road, Bedlington County:
Northumberland

Rather odd, she's listed as a widow in 1871, yet she has a 7 year old daughter 10 years later?

Hi, I am looking for the birth ref for Robert bell, in census he gives his birth year as 1865 except for 1881 when he was said to be born 1864. There are a few certs I could send for but would rather not pay £10 for a wrong cert. If anyone can help finding what they think is the right one I would be grateful. I have what looks like him with his family in 1881, I will post it at the end. I anyone can find the family in 1871 it might help. In 1881 his mother was called Isabella Bell she was then a widow, her husband may have still been alive in 1871/61 so them census could prove usefull, any help wellcome
Kathy

1881 Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Isabella BELL
Head W Female 47 Barnard Castle, Durham, England Dressmaker
William BELL
Son U Male 23 Winlaton, Durham, England Coal Miner
Robert Hy. BELL
Son U Male 17 Bedlington, Northumberland, England Coal Miner
John BELL
Son U Female 14 Bedlington, Northumberland, England Coal Miner
Elizabeth BELL
Dau Female 12 Bedlington, Northumberland, England Scholar
Isabella BELL
Dau Female 7 Bedlington, Northumberland, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Byron St
Census Place Bedlington, Northumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342236

Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5117 / 72
Page Number 18

This looks to be them


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
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....................Bell Robert Morpeth 10b 547
Burton Elizabeth Morpeth 10b 547
....................Philipson Mary Morpeth 10b 547
WILSON William Morpeth 10b 547

hi glitter baby, it looks like him, only thing is his birthplace is choppington in other census its bedlington, but I suppose they are next door to each other so its not so unusual for the birthplace to be a bit off. have you had any luck with the marriage of his parents, I cant find it on the LDS or free BMD
Thanks again

1901 poss

Name: Robert Bell
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Bell
Gender: Male
Where born: Choppington, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Bedlington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub-registration district: Bedlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bell 36
Mary Bell 34
John E Bell 11
Thomas Bell 8
Robert A Bell 5
Mary E Bell 3



John E - I think it could be John P on image


Class: RG13; Piece: 4833; Folio: 99; Page: 11

Hi Ann thanks for the 1891 census, you have him spot on, could you find him on the 1901 census then I am finished looking for his census data. I have been looking the marriage of John Wilkinson and his wife Emma, looking at the 1881census they had a son in 1878 again in Northumberland.but I cant seem to find it, I will send for the cert if I have the right info, can anyone help find them?

Thanks to all who have taken the time to help tonight I have loads more than I expected your all so kind

Kathy

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BELL, Robert
Address: Rontledge Buildings, Barrington, Bedlington, Sleek Burn Colliery

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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BELL, Robert Head Married M 26 1865 Coal Miner
Bedlington
Northumberland VIEW
BELL, Mary Wife Married F 24 1867
Bedlington
Northumberland VIEW
BELL, John P Son M 1 (1Y) 1890
Bedlington
Northumberland VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4256 Folio:
129 Page:
27

Registration District:
Morpeth Sub District:
Bedlington Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Cuthbert

Civil Parish:
Bedlington Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rontledge Buildings, Barrington, Bedlington, Sleek Burn Colliery County:
Northumberland



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hi Ann and Glitter baby, yes you have John Philipson Bell in 1911, thats great, could you find the time to look for him in earlier census, I had'nt intended to look at his line tonight but as you found him in 1911 it should be easier to find him in other census. His name was John Philipson Bell.

I am still putting the Wilkinson's in order on my PC, I will get back to them soon
Thanks again
Kathy

WOW, the time it took me to answer the second posting you had found her in 3 census, I now have her father and mothers name, also a bit on the Bell side, I am going to take a look and put this iofo together and get back to you in a little while, thanks so much
Kathy

Kathleen, that is every census available covering her life. Her mother's name is shown as Emma.

I have posted her in 1891 and 1901 - what other census do you want her in?

Hi and thanks for your postings, either could be the right one. could anyone find them in another census. I believe her father was called John, I dont know her mothers name.
Thanks again

census - household transcription
Person: BELL, John Philipson
Address: Barmoor Bank Hepscott Morpeth

Cost:
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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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BELL, Robert Head Married M 46 1865 Under-Manager Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Mary Wife Married
22 years F 44 1867 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, John Philipson Son Single M 21 1890 Deputy-Overman Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Thomas Son Single M 18 1893 Fireman And Boiler Minder Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Robert Andrew Son Single M 15 1896 Screener Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Mary Evelyn Daughter F 13 1898 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, William Son M 8 1903 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31015 Reference:
RG14PN31015 RG78PN1775 RD564 SD2 ED1 SN69

Registration District:
Morpeth Sub District:
Bedlington Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Hepscott

Address:
Barmoor Bank Hepscott Morpeth County:
Northumberland

1911 a poss

BELL, Robert Head Married M 46 1865 Under-Manager Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Mary Wife Married
22 years F 44 1867 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, John Philipson Son Single M 21 1890 Deputy-Overman Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Thomas Son Single M 18 1893 Fireman And Boiler Minder Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Robert Andrew Son Single M 15 1896 Screener Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, Mary Evelyn Daughter F 13 1898 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW
BELL, William Son M 8 1903 Northumberland Bedlington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31015 Reference:
RG14PN31015 RG78PN1775 RD564 SD2 ED1 SN69

Registration District:
Morpeth Sub District:
Bedlington Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Hepscott

Address:
Barmoor Bank Hepscott Morpeth



Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Bell John Philipson Morpeth 10b 383

1901 England Census
Emily Wilkinson Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Wilkinson Mother's Name: Emma Wilkinson Gender: Female Where born: Ellington; Rothbury
Civil parish: Wingates Ecclesiastical parish: Longhorsley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Rothbury Sub-registration district: Rothbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 8
John Wilkinson 47 coal miner Northd, Beths Head Nothamtton
Emma Wilkinson 42 Northd, Pegswood NW Morpeth
Fred Wilkinson 23
Henry Wilkinson 19
Victor Wilkinson 15
Emily Wilkinson 12
Gladys Wilkinson 10
Dellis Wilkinson 8
George Wilkinson 5
Gerald Wilkinson 3
Lizzie Wilkinson 5 MO
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4850; Folio: 105; Page: 2.