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Astra

Astra Report 20 Sep 2010 15:34

Thank you for letting us know Joan.
Good Luck

Joan

Joan Report 20 Sep 2010 10:26

Thanks Astra for all your help I have received an Email from the tree owner Best Wishes Joan

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 13:12

My goodness that was quick. Message received from tree owner.

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:40

It's not a problem so don't worry about it. I have sent a message for you and if they still have the same E mail address they should receive it OK. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you hear something soon.

Joan

Joan Report 18 Sep 2010 11:33

Sorry

Joan

Joan Report 18 Sep 2010 11:33

Yes this is the marriage of Samuel and Elizabeth and their daughter Ethel Crane was born in Suffolk, also the other children start with the Crane name

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:30

Thanks Joan but you need to delete that. It's best not to display your E mail address on a public forum which is why I said PM it to me. I have copied it so don't worry.

Joan

Joan Report 18 Sep 2010 11:22

Yes that is right when the family moved to London they changed their name to Beales which is the mother's maiden name

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:21

The M is for male Joan it's not his middle initial.

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:20

I will send a message for you Joan and if the tree owner is still around we may get a response. Can you PM me your E mail address please so that I can let them have it.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Sep 2010 11:20

Looks like it may have been Elizabeth who gave the details to the enumerator and just got confused?? Her maiden surname is Beales??

(First child was born in Suffolk, so this could be their marriage?)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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BEALES Elizabeth Hartismere 4a 1321
BEALS Elizabeth Hartismere 4a 1321
CRANE Samuel Hartismere 4a 1321

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:18

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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BEALES Elizabeth Hartismere 4a 1321
BEALS Elizabeth Hartismere 4a 1321
Cawston Hester Jane Hartismere 4a 1321
CRANE Samuel Hartismere 4a 1321
WOOLSEY Thomas Hartismere 4a 1321

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Sep 2010 11:16

The original image on the 1891 clearly gives the surname as Beales. But it looks like Emily was registered as Crane.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Crane Emily Eliza W. Ham 4a 272

Joan

Joan Report 18 Sep 2010 11:15

Yes this is is his birth date

Joan

Joan Report 18 Sep 2010 11:14

I am not a member of Ancestry but I would like to get more information Thank you Joan

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:12

His marriage to Ada Poole

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
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Crane Jonathan L Poole W.Ham 4a 430


A load of possible births which I will PM for you.

Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:06

There is a private tree on Ancestry that has him. Are you a member? If you are you can contact them. If not let me know and I will send a message for you.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Sep 2010 11:05

If that is the correct birth, I don't see him as Beales in 1911 but there is this one?

HOUSEHOLD CRANE JOHNATHAN M 1892 19 West Ham Essex


Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:02

and the 1901 for reference

Jonathan Beales
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel Beales
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Beales
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Beales 33
Elizabeth Beales 33
Ethel Beales 14
Samuel Beales 11
Jonathan Beales 8
Alfred Beales 6
Arthur Beales 2
Emily Beales 4 Months
Henry Cobb 33
Thomas Turner 18


Astra

Astra Report 18 Sep 2010 11:00

1911

CRANE, Samuel Head Married M 44 1867 General Labourer Suffolk Palgrave VIEW
CRANE, Elizabeth Wife Married
23 years F 44 1867 Dont Know VIEW
CRANE, Samuel Son Single M 21 1890 General Labourer Suffolk Palgrave VIEW
CRANE, Johnathan Son Single M 19 1892 General Labourer Derbyshire Totley VIEW
CRANE, Alfred Son Single M 17 1894 General Labourer Yorkshire Thurnscoe VIEW
CRANE, Arthur Son M 12 1899 School London Kensington Notting Hill VIEW
CRANE, Emily Daughter F 10 1901 School Essex West Ham Plaistow VIEW
CRANE, Nellie Daughter F 9 1902 Essex West Ham Plaistow VIEW
CRANE, Charles Son M 7 1904 Essex West Ham Plaistow VIEW
CRANE, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 Essex West Ham Plaistow VIEW

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Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Plaistow Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
103 Harcout R West Ham E County:
Essex