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Hi i have found my great grandfather Hubert Rance in the 1911 census but we know he was born in Australia would like to get a copy of his birth certificate so i can trace his father. I have found his mother as they came back to England early 1900's.
How do i get a copy of this??Clare

when was he born?

found this - 1881

William Chas. RANCE Head M Male 45 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Compositor
Eliza RANCE Wife M Female 43 Thorney, Buckingham, England
Thomas Chas. RANCE Son U Male 20 Iver ((Paddington)), Buckingham, England Clerk Unemployed
Edwin Jos. RANCE Son U Male 18 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Clerk Chemical
Eliza Ann RANCE Daur U Female 15 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Hubert Frank RANCE Son Male 11 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Scholar
Harry RANCE Son Male 9 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 50 Copley St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341105
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0477 / 24
Page Number 42

1895

he was on the 1911 census in staplehurst.

where is Staplehurst please?

its in Kent

was he Hubert Norman Rance?



sylvia

Hi Clare, I can't find anything in the Australian records....do you have any idea which State they were in before returning to England?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RANCE, Hubert Norman
Address: Park Cottages Frittenden Staplehurst

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MORPHETT, Harold George Head Married M 36 1875 Brickmaker Kent Frittenden VIEW
MORPHETT, Ellen Amelia Wife Married
13 years F 35 1876 Kent Crambrook VIEW
MORPHETT, Bertha Daughter F 12 1899 School Kent Crambrook VIEW
MORPHETT, Edith Daughter F 10 1901 School Kent Crambrook VIEW
MORPHETT, Charles Son M 6 1905 School Kent Frittenden VIEW
RANCE, Annie Margaret Sister In Law Married F 39 1872 Kent Cranbrook VIEW
RANCE, Hubert Norman Boarder Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Australia Resudent VIEW

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Is Annie his mother? she states she had been married 17 years No children??

Hi Clare,

I've found this one:

Name: Herbert N Rance
Birth Date: 1894
Father's Name: William J Rance
Mother's Name: Annie M
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Place: Waterloo, New South Wales
Registration Number: 35743

1881
Annie and Ellen

Name: Annie Tye
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Simeon Tye
Mother's Name: Mary Tye
Gender: Female
Where born: Cranbrook, Kent, England

Civil parish: Cranbrook
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Willesly Pound
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Simeon Tye 44 >>>shoemaker
Mary Tye 41
Ernest Tye 16
Albert Tye 14
Emma Tye 11
Annie Tye 9
Ellen Tye 5
Amos Tye 4
Charlie Tye 2


1891

Name: Annie M Tye
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Cranbrook, Kent, England

Civil parish: Cranbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
Town: Cranbrook
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

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Stephen W B Sherman 57
Isabella Sherman 55
Artie B Sherman 25
Emily T L Sherman 19
Katharine Gordon 25
Emily Brown 19
Annie M Tye 20 >>>cook


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this is really interesting his mothers name is Annie Margaret Rance. we are not sure where in Australia they lived. do you know how i go about getting a copy of his birth certificate??

Thanks Amazinggrace08 you have given me lots to go on. Clare

Clare

If you think the NSW birth is the right one, you can order it from www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

Or use a transcription agent (find on Google)

Cheers
Cherilyn

Hi Cherilyn,
Thanks for the info on how i might get a copy of birth cert for my great grandfather. i havent been on here in quite a while.
Clare

According to an Ancestry tree William James Rance and Annie Margaret Tye married in Highgate Western Australia 1894

Hi Clare,

If you go through to the NSW BDM site here:

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

These are the instructions when you are ready to order:

Purchase Certificates

You can also choose to purchase Family History Certificates from the search results page.

Select Buy Now beside the correct Index.


The next screen details the certificates you have selected. Please check your order to make sure the correct certificates are displayed.


You now have two options: You can select Purchase to continue to the next screen, or you can go back to the Search Results screen and select other certificates to purchase.


If you decide to continue searching the Historical Indexes, you should either click on the Search Historical Records in the breadcrumb field above or click on Reset on the top right of the Search screen.


If you select Purchase you continue to the Purchase Certificates screen. When you have read the purchase terms, please select either 'Purchase' to continue or 'Back to View Order' which returns you to the previous screen.


If you selected 'Purchase' you are asked to enter your personal details. From this point, you have entered the secure area of the website. You will notice a yellow padlock on the bottom right of the screen which confirms you have entered the secure area. Enter your details, then click on 'Next' to take you to the next screen.


Now enter your credit card details. When completed, click 'Next'.


The next screen confirms the details of your order. Please check the details to see if correct — click:
'Back' to re-enter your Credit Card details if they are incorrect,
'Submit' to continue with order; or
'Cancel' to cancel the order and return to the Search Results screen.


The next screen completes your order and provides you with a Reference Number for inquiries. 'Print' a copy of this page or view and save it to your computer. Alternatively, return to the 'Search Results' screen or 'Family History' section.

Hope they help. If you get stuck let me know and I can help you through with it.

Regards,
:-)

Yes his parents, William & Annie, did marry in WA. They must have gone to NSW soon after!

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx


I wonder if that is where Annie was born?

4169/1875 TYE ANNIE M [father] THOMAS [mother] ANN M NEWTOWN

Her parents marriage:
248/1865 TYE THOMAS [m] MANSER ANNA M SYDNEY

Mother's birth?
V18441065 28/1844 MANSER ANN M [father] STEPHEN [mother] DOROTHY
Father's death?
2836/1878 TYE THOMAS [father] ALFRED [mother] UNKNOWN NEWTOWN

His birth?
V18422296 26A/1842 TYE THOMAS [father] ALFRED [mother] HARRIETTE

Ann remarried after Thomas' death aged only 35.
1465/1879 MINOR ALEXR [m] TYE ANN M BALMAIN

her death:
2620/1927 MINOR ANN M [father] STEPHEN M [mother] DOROTHY ST PETERS

See death/funeral notices at NLA Trove newspaper site.