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Trying to find out about my grandfather Richard G Francis, killed in WW1. He married Mary Louisa Leavesley, 07/06/1914. At St S AVIORS Church, in Liverpool. They had a daughter b.30/12/1914.called Lilian, and lived in Waterloo, Liverpool.
Thats all i know of him. Hope some one can help. Alan C.

Thank you all for your help we have the same information and i don't know what to do next.Alan

??? This appears to be the only Richard G Francis WW1 death recorded at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site www.cwgc.org. Are you sure that your Richard G Francis perished during WW1?

Name: FRANCIS, RICHARD GEORGE
Initials: R G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: South Lancashire Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 01/09/1915
Service No: 2404
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Clara Francis, of 10, Lowry St., Liverpool; husband of Sarah Ann Francis, of 45, Eden St., Lodge Lane, Liverpool.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

1901 England Census about Richard G Francis
Name: Richard G Francis
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Clara Francis
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Francis 47
Richard G Francis 17
William Francis 15
John Hy Francis 14
Florence E M Francis 12
Clara Francis 9


Dee x

I have deleted a few postings as there seems to be 2 families with Richard and Clara as the parents;

1891 England Census about Richard G Francis
Name: Richard G Francis
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Francis
Mother's Name: Clara Francis
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkdale; Liverpool
Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Francis 41 born Carlington, Lancashire. Engine fitter
Clara Francis 38 born Ludlow
Thomas Francis 9
Richard G Francis 7
John H Francis 4
Florence E Francis 2

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LEAVESLEY, Mary Louisa
Address: 54 Fowler St Everton Liverpool

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
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LEAVESLEY, William Henry Head Married M 67 1844 Upholsterer Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Mary Wife Married 30 years F 47 1864 Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, William Henry Son Single M 29 1882 Insurance Agent Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Robert Samuel Son Single M 26 1885 Electric Tramway Conductor Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Walter Son Single M 20 1891 Striker Blacksmiths Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Mary Louisa Daughter Single F 17 1894 Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Amy Alexandra Daughter F 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool
LEAVESLEY, Ada Granddaughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Lancashire Liverpool

This enquiry bothers me slightly.

According to the original poster the couple had a daughter born on 30/12/1914. I cannot spot a Lilian Francis birth registered Dec Qtr 1914 or Mar Qtr 1915. Neither can I spot any birth of a child with the surname Francis and a mother whose maiden name was Leavesley.

The only one that gets close is this one:

Births Mar 1915 (99%)
Francis Lilian Roberts W. Derby 8b 541

Perhaps Alan would care to explain.

I have looked for a Leavesley/Roberts marriage but I did not spot one.

I too have been looking for the marriage and daughter and cannot find them.

Leavisley & Roberts marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

Name: Walter Leavisley
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Roberts
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b

corresponding spouse

Name: Lilian M Roberts
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Leavisley
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b

Hi Jonesey thanks for the help i have come across this Richard before, i can only go by what my mother told me and what her mother told her.thanks again Alan.

Hi i have the birth certificate also , and that they lived in Denmark street,this was the street next to the one i was born in and my grandmother lived .
also it say George Francis and that he was a labourer,and that was 1915 but nothing adds up.
My mother always told me her father was killed just before she was born. i know her mother had a child in 1911 called Ada and that she died, i have the birth &death certificate for her.
Thanks Alan

Hi Dee thanks for your help. ALAN

Thanks PaulaW for your help Alan

Thanks i have my grandmothers marriage certificate and my mothers birth certificate or what i think is hers,the Roberts part i have know idea about.
Alan

Hi the Leavesleys of 54, Fowler street are my mothers mother and family.
Thanks Alan.

Lilian Francis Birth date is 31/12/1914 and not the 30/12/1914.
Alan.

Do you have the number of Denmark st,and did Richard use his middle name as you called him George in 1915.

Maryb

1911 12,Rupert street evertoon.
Richard George Francis married born 1884 house painter.
Clara mum widow born 1854 Shropshire
Richards children
Richard 1904
Robert 1905
Florance 1906
Sarah Ann 1908.


I can only see one richard george francis.

Maryb

Strange Lilian M Leavesley nee roberts J/A/S 1914 west Derby 8b 877.

Maryb

Could this be what happened,a long shot i knowbut.

Walter marries Lilian m roberts has Walter A Leavesley and Lilian Leavesley
Lilian M Leavesley dies Liverpool 1918 age 29 = birth1889.

Then Walters sister Mary louisa marrys Richard George Francis and they bring her up as there own,so her mum would infact be her auntie.

I told you it was a long shot,but it would account for a lot of the problems we are finding.

Maryb