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could I please ask again !!!!

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KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 16:15

Now last week I needed some help with my family and many of you were great (again) But the puzzel is this ...I have now found another lady looking at this tree aswel BUT we are both having the same problem

census 1851
John Peters
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Peters
Mother's Name: Sarah Peters
Gender: Male
Where born: M L B, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex:
Name Age
John Peters 39
Sarah Peters 38
Joseph Peters 14
David Peters 10
John Peters 10
Henry Peters 8
Emily Peters




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Possible parents' marriage?

Name: John George Peters
Spouse Name: Sarah Collins
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1811
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Now if these are the parents which we think they are whats happened to their ages!!!






RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 10 Oct 2010 16:23

The couple that married in 1811 would have to have been born c 1791 so would have been in their 60's in 1851 so I don't think you have the right marriage I'm afraid

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 16:23

What do you mean by "What's happened to their ages?"

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 16:27

Well like has been pointed out the two are seprate families BUt we cant find any other marriage for this couple ...
I,m sorry but this is all new to be as before 1837ish you cant get certificates so how do you know you have the right couple ?

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 10 Oct 2010 16:29

you need a birth cert of one of the children which would give mother's maiden name

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 16:35

Yes !! the other lady researching the tree has the birth certificate of the child born after the ones listed she gave me the Sarah collins BUT I,m beginning to think!!!!!!!
The child she has COULD be the parent and as the names are the same Sarah colins is the grand parent to John peters age 10 and NOT the mother!! on this census

But looking at what you all have written you made me think this so again I owe you all a big THANKS
I will send for the only certificate and go from there

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 17:07

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Peters
Name: John Peters
Spouse Name: Sarah Catharine Triggs
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Feb 1835
Parish: St James, Paddington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

One witness is John Peters Senior. The other is a Lydia Slarland /Harland??

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 17:11

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Peters
Name: Henry Peters
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 19

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:14

Oh Mel Thank you so much ....

I do and will follow up ALL the ref give so please dont delete

Thanks so much I will work on that

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Oct 2010 17:15

I would suspect you've just skipped a generation and John George Peters and Sarah Collins are the parents of John Peters who married Sarah Catharine Triggs.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 17:16

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Henry Walter Peters
Name: Henry Walter Peters
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1845
Baptism Date: 8 Jun 1845
Father's Name: John Peters <<GARDENER
Mother's Name: Sarah Peters
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster

Their address 4 Tudwick St.??

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about David George Thomas Peters
Name: David George Thomas Peters
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 26th July 1840 <<<<<<<<<
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1840
Father's Name: John Peters LABOURER
Mother's Name: Sarah Peters
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster

8 Carlisle Place

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:21

MargaretManson I think you are right and I,m doing like Mel is and going through Ancestry and shoeboxing all possibles to check later tonight when the children are asleep!!!

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:24

Mel Thanks so much I,m going to send for Henry birth as he seems to match most areas to be matched ....

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:36

What I hope to find is John married Sarah c Triggs having a child called John Robert Peters born 1841- 1845

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:40

John Robert Peters
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1843
Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1843
Father's Name: John Peters
Mother's Name: Sarah Peters
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster

Think this is it!!!


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 17:43

1841 England Census
about John Peters
Name: John Peters
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:Coventry Place.

Occupation: Cabinet Maker

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Green
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Peters 50
Sarah Peters 50
Joseph Peters 20
Sarah Peters 20
Maria Peters 16
Louisa Peters 13
Mary Peters 11

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 17:45

On that 1851 census it says that David Peters is 12 and not 10 as transcribed.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 17:53

Oh Thank you so much Mel
I cant believe you people are so wonderful each time you have come up with the goods

Thanks again to all who have helpped

And this is the third family of Peters to0 show what could be twins!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 10 Oct 2010 18:08

They were not twins on the 1851. One was 12 and one was 10!!!!!!

But I will look up Joseph and sarah as the 1841 rounded ages up so they may not be twins.

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Oct 2010 18:12

Thanks Mel...