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not the right Georgina Butt marrying Frederick Wheeler in 1909 -


HENNING, William Head Married M 38 1873 Builders Labourer VIEW
HENNING, Bertha Wife Married
12 years F 37 1874 St Palls Deptford VIEW
HENNING, Willie Son M 10 1901 School St Palls Deptford VIEW
HENNING, James Son M 2 1909 School St Palls Deptford VIEW
HENNING, Oliver Son M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 St Palls Deptford VIEW
HENNING, Sarah Mother Married
39 years F 56 1855 Beckham VIEW
HENNING, Thomas Father Married M 64 1847 Carrier Camberwell VIEW
HENNING, Oliver Son Single M 19 1892 Cleark To Carriers St Palls Deptford VIEW
WHEELER, Frederick Head Married
2 years M 23 1888 Odd Man Deptford VIEW
>>>>WHEELER, Georgina Wife Married F 23 1888 Greenwich VIEW
BUTT, Frederick Son M 3 1908 Greenwich VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2663 Reference:
RG14PN2663 RG78PN90 RD28 SD3 ED22 SN407

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford South Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
10 Heston St N Cross S E County:
London

Thank you Shirley and Choccy

1891

BUTT, William Head Married M 46 1845 Labourer
Devonshire VIEW
BUTT, Isabella Wife Married F 34 1857
Woolwich
Kent VIEW
>>>>>BUTT, Georgannah Daughter F 14 1877
Aldershot
Hampshire VIEW
BUTT, William Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Southampton Christchurch VIEW
BUTT, Roseannah Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
London VIEW
BUTT, Walter Son M 9 1882 Scholar
London VIEW
BUTT, Jesse Son M 6 1885 Scholar
London VIEW
BUTT, Harriett Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891
Woolwich
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
536 Folio:
54 Page:
5

Registration District:
Woolwich Sub District:
Plumstead West Enumeration District:
10 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Margarets

Civil Parish:
Plumstead Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Barnfield Road, Plumstead County:
London

Georgina's parents in 1901 - address as on marriage certificate -


27 BUTT, William Head Married M 48 1853 General Labourer
Devonshire VIEW
27 BUTT, Isabella Wife Married F 46 1855
Woolwich VIEW
27 BUTT, Rose Daughter Single F 19 1882
St Johns Wood
London VIEW
27 BUTT, Jesse Son Single M 17 1884 Coal Porter
St Johns Wood
London VIEW
27 BUTT, Ethel Daughter F 8 1893
Plumstead
London VIEW
27 BUTT, Alice Daughter F 2 1899
Woolwich
London VIEW
27 CAULSTONE, Joseph Lodger Single M 21 1880 Coal Carman
Yorkshire VIEW
27 BALDOCK, William Lodger Single M 26 1875 Coal Carman
Plumstead
London VIEW

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28 ASHLEY, John Head Married M 26 1875 Coal Porter
Woolwich
London VIEW
28 ASHLEY, Emily Wife Married F 20 1881
Wapping
London VIEW
28 ASHLEY, Rose Daughter F 0 1901
Injermany
East London VIEW
28 ASHLEY, Thomas Son M 2 1899
Woolwich VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
565 Folio:
7 Page:
6

Registration District:
Woolwich Sub District:
Woolwich Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Woolwich Municipal Borough:
Address:
58, High Street, Woolwich County:
London

not the same girl then as born 1888 would be too young to marry in 1898

Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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BUTT Georgina Greenwich 1d 1048


HOUSEHOLD WHEELER GEORGINA F 1888 23 Greenwich London

HOUSEHOLD WHEELER FREDERICK M 1888 23 Greenwich London

cant see him and Gerogina on the 1901 census .wonder if she decided to go bake to her maiden name and remarry.
Name: Georgina Butt
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1032
spouse Patrick Joseph Tully or Frederick Charles Wheeler
its all in the ame area .about 4 miles apart.

Thank you Shirley and Dee.

I think I am going to have to find out what happened to Georgina Butt.

I am inclined to agree with Shirley,

I have had a good look around and that seems the only explanation.

I have also compared Alberts signature from the marriage cert to that on the 1911 and they DO look very similar.

I am sure it must be the same one - We need to find out what happened to Georgina?

Dea x

It looks very much as if having married Georgina he the wasnt free to remarry . they have registered Ernest as if they were married but then Rebecca died in 1903. He was still separated from Georgina so couldn't marry Annie but they set up home together as a married couple,
There is only the one marriage record for him which is to Georgina Butt
Divorce wasnt an option at that time and many did go on to make bigamous marriages .at least he didnt do that!.

Is there anyone else who might be able to help me out with this conundrum??

I am especially interested in finding out if my great grandparents actually married or not. Taking Ernest Albert Edward out of the equation, Albert and Annie had 6 or 7 children. Annie went by the name Barringer, but I have not been lucky in finding a marriage record for them. It maybe that I have been looking so hard and just missed it??

Thank you Kucinta, I didn't have knowledge of Earnest's death but I did know about his baptism and marriage details.
I am more interested in the marriage/s of his father, Albert Edward Barringer to Rebecca Elizabeth Bridge and Annie Elizabeth Dean.

Thanks again.

Marriage:

Name: Ernest A E Barringer
Spouse Surname: Greenfield
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Dover
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 3403
Spouse: Greenfield Winifred F M Barringer Dover 2a 3403 JAS 1929.


Edit: three Barringer-Greenfield children born Dover area in 1930s. Won't list them in public forum as they may still be living, but they can easily be found on Free BMD.

Death:

Name: Ernest A E Barringer
Death Registration Month/Year: 1964
Age at death (estimated): 62
Registration district: Woolwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 708

baptism for Ernest:

Name: Ernest Albert Edward Barringer
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1902
Baptism Date: 23 Apr 1902
Father's name: Albert Edward Barringer
Mother's name: Rebecca Elizabeth Barringer
Parish or Poor Law Union: Plumstead St Paul
Borough: Greenwich

Address 2 Albert Cottages, Kidd St. Father a carman.

Perhaps they never married

??
Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Bridge Rebecca Elizabeth 24 Woolwich 1d 594



Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Bridge Rebecca Elizabeth Woolwich 1d 1116

Albert's parents were John and Eliza Barringer nee Dean. Albert's second wife, my great grandmother, was also his cousin. Albert's mother was the sister of Annie's father!

Sorry, I thought I had included that info. Ernest was born in Woolwich. Albert was also born in Woolwich, but died in Kent, so I am prsuming that his marriage would have taken place in the Kent area.

1881 - could this be Albert Edward?

Daniel G. BARRINGER Head M Male 35 Westminster Engineer Fitter
Catherine BARRINGER Wife M Female 29 Manchester
Genge L. BARRINGER Son U Male 7 Portsmouth
Albt.E. BARRINGER Son U Male 4 Clerkenwell
Edith M. BARRINGER Daur U Female 1 Clerkenwell


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Source Information:
Dwelling 35 Easton Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341076
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0351 / 28
Page Number 4

1911 ?
BARRINGER, Albert Head Married M 30 1881 Fish Carman Charlton Kent VIEW
BARRINGER, Annie Wife Married
2 years F 24 1887 Charlton Kent VIEW
BARRINGER, Ernest Stepson M 9 1902 Woolwich Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2901 Reference:
RG14PN2901 RG78PN99 RD30 SD3 ED19 SN142

Registration District:
Woolwich Sub District:
Plumstead West Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Plumstead

Address:
21 Villas Road Plumstead S E