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thank's for looking katie,
not sure if it is him,but at least it gives me something to go on,i will look to see if i can find where edith died and when,it may all tie in ,
thank you sue

Could this be his death? The age is nearly right.

Deaths Dec 1932
Lockhart Thomas J 62 Ormskirk 8b 828

nudged for new help needed,
thank's

Or complications resulting from the birth.
Maureen

thank's for that rose,it was a young age to die if it was not in child birth.

Thomas was birth was registered in the first quarter so probably not related to her death:

Births Mar 1894
Lockhart Thomas Alfred Derby 7b 579


Rose

this last reply i wrote appear's to have come up under the heading!
very strange!!!!

hi everyone,
ann elizabeth lockhart died jul-aug-sept 1894 in derby.
as thomas was born in 1894 ,i assume it was child birth related.
thank's sue

thank's katie for the 1911 census,yes it is them,

Right. Thanks for carrying on for me. I kept getting an error message everytime I posted to explain the second marriage.

I will be so happy when they finally fix these new (and numerous) glitches.

Maureen

Here they are in 1911, they have been married 13 years then so it proves what Rose said


LOCKHART, Thomas Head M 42 1869 Painter House Scropton Derby VIEW
LOCKHART, Edith Wife Married
13 years F 33 1878 Stamford Rutland VIEW
LOCKHART, Fanny Daughter Single F 19 1892 Card Room Hand Tenter Oldham Lanc VIEW
LOCKHART, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Spinner Cotton Mule Tenter Oldham Lanc VIEW
LOCKHART, May Daughter F 12 1899 Factory Ring Room Frame Oldham Lanc VIEW
LOCKHART, John Son M 11 1900 School Oldham Lanc VIEW
CARWARDINE, Charlotte Son Widow F 69 1842 Seamstress Oldham Lanc VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24519 Reference:
RG14PN24519 RG78PN1405 RD469 SD3 ED20 SN285

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham South Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Oldham

Address:
38 Emily Street Oldham County:
Lancashire

this is the family in 1901 ,thank's to you both,i will look for ann's death now

thank's for that click,
maybe the one maureen found is a second marriage

If this is the family you require, then perhaps Thomas married twice. Look at the gaps in the children's ages:

1901 England Census
about Thos James Lockhart
Name: Thos James Lockhart
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Edith Alia Lockhart
Gender: Male
Where born: Sudbrig, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members: Name Age
Thos James Lockhart 33
Edith Alia Lockhart 24
Fanny Marie Lockhart 9
Thos Alfred Lockhart 7
Eli May Lockhart 2
John Lockhart 1


Rose

I guess this is them? Her name is mistranscribed Edith Alia bit original is definitely Edith Celia;
1901 census
29 Ethel St., Oldham, lancs
Thos. James Lockhart, head, 33, house decorator, born Sydbrig?, Derbyshire
Edith Celia, wife, 24, born Easton, Rutland
Fanny Marie, dau, 9, born Derby
Thos. Alfred, son, 7, born "
Eliz. May, dau, 2, born Oldham
John, son, 1, born "

If you want the Shardlow marriage then it's Ann Elizabeth Bradley:

Marriages Sep 1891
Bradley Ann Elizabeth Shardlow 7b 717
Lockhart Thomas James Shardlow 7b 717

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Thomas James Lockhart
Name: Thomas James Lockhart
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 22
Father's name: Alfred James Lockhart
Spouse's name: Ann Elizabeth Bradley
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Bradley
Marriage Date: 22 Aug 1891
Marriage Place: Osmaston (Near Derby), Derbyshire, England



Rose

i have looked at this one on lanc bmd,the children they had do not tie in ,the thomas james i want was married at shardlow ,this is were the first 2 children were born,on free bmd the marriage is there for 1891 in shardlow,7b 717 index number,sorry to doubt your kindness,
thank's for taking the time to look,derbyshire do not have a online parish clerk for me to check,i also only have genes ,so i am limited to what result's i can get,
thank's sue

I think you mean this one???
Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
Barratt Edith Celia Oldham 8d 950
Lockhart Thomas James Oldham 8d 950

Maureen

hello to everyone who helped me sort this out,
i have been trying to find the death of thomas james lockhart,
i know he was alive aged 43 on the 1911 census,(as shown further down in this thread),
i cannot find his death ,i have checked freebmd,lancs bmd does not have the deaths transcribed yet,if anyone could find it i would be grateful,
thank's sue