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Hi Guys,

It's quiet on the boards today, so if any of you are at a loose end could you check the last post on this board for me please?

Ashley is in Auz and has limited internet access so I've been trying to help her, but come up against a stumbling block on her great grand-mother's mother.

I think I've identified the first wife as Mary Phripp (Fripp on census) born 1846, reg Shaftsbury Dorset, married Q3/1868, but can't get anywhere on the second "wife"

Any help would be appreciated.

Mac

I've been trying to help Ashley with some of the background on her family, and have come across 2 census returns in 1881 for what appears to be the same person. There was only 1 birth registered Epson, Surrey for John Croxford (2nd on freebmd is a mis-transcription) in 1844, but here he is with 2 families. Can any of you kind people check London area marriages for him please, or the christenings of the 2 oldest children (I've put their registration details against their names)?

Many thanks


CROXFORD, John Head Married M 30 1851 Omnibus Driver
Tooting
Surrey VIEW
CROXFORD, Mary Wife Married F 19 1862
London, London
Middlesex VIEW
CROXFORD, John Son Single M 0 1881
London, London [John William Archibald reg Q3/1880 Marlebone]
Middlesex VIEW
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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
156 Folio:
78 Page:
38

Registration District:
Marylebone Sub District:
Christchurch Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Address:
54, Milton St, St Marylebone County:
Middlesex

CROXFORD, John Head Married M 36 1845 Omnibus Driver
Tooting VIEW
CROXFORD, Mary Wife Married F 30 1851
Dorset VIEW
CROXFORD, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Hanwell
Middlesex VIEW [William Henry, reg Q1/1870, Kensington]
CROXFORD, John Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Hanwell
Middlesex VIEW
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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
36 Folio:
81 Page:
38

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kensington Municipal Borough:
Address:
10, Bolton Rd, Kensington County:
Middlesex

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Earl Caroline Kensington 1a 176
Goodger David Hay Kensington 1a 176
>>>Jennings Edwin Kensington 1a 176

Missing from the freebmd transcript is Charlotte French who married Edwin.

Re Alice Jennings:

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
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JENNINGS Alice Monica Kensington 1a 67

1881 census:

JENNINGS, Edwin Head Married M 46 1835 Carpenter
Islington
Middlesex VIEW
JENNINGS, Charlotte Wife Married F 44 1837
Islington
Middlesex VIEW
JENNINGS, Verina Daughter Single F 17 1864
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
JENNINGS, William Son Single M 15 1866 Clerk
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
JENNINGS, Charles Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
JENNINGS, Alice Daughter Single F 1 1880
VIEW
LINFORD, Isabella Lodger Married F 50 1831
Calcutta
East Indies VIEW
FORESTER, John Lodger Head Married M 66 1815 Retired Land Steward
Dunterton
Devon VIEW
FORESTER, Maria Lodger Married F 65 1816 None
Plymouth
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
21 Folio:
102 Page:
35

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
St John Paddington Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Paddington Municipal Borough:
Address:
10, Hereford Road, Paddington County:
Middlesex

1891 census
Alice Jennings [the original image shows her name as Alice Monica]
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Address 47, Richford Street
District Fulham, St Paul Hammersmith
Parish Hammersmith
Administrative County London
Birth Place Paddington
Birth County Middlesex

Other members of household:
Edwin Jennings 57 carpenter
Charlotte 55
Charles A 15

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
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Doel William James Stow S 4a 1059
ORRIS Susannah Stow S 4a 1059

William Doel on 1901 census appears to be living in a split house, at the same address as his parents:

2 Holborne Gds Hammersmith:
William J Doel (jnr) - head 22 Hay carter, born Woolfit, Suffolk
Alice 22 (wife) born Paddington
Albert 2mths born Willsden

William Doel - head 44 Wheelwright b Woolfit Suffolk
Susannah (wife) 43 born Drinkstone Suffolk
Arthur G 20, Bricklayers labourer b Oldham Lancashire
Bertie 12 born Woolfit
Florence A 8 b Woolfit
Albert E 3 b Woolfit

The family in 1891:
Cottage, Norton Rd Stow Rattleden, Woolpit Suffolk
William 34 brickmaker
Susannah 33
William j 12
Arthur G 10
Ernest ? 8
Maud A 5
Bertie 2
With the exception of Arthur, all their children born Woolpit.

I am extremely greatful to all of you who helped me
as you already figured out I am completely useless I just dont get it

so please I beg you
if anyone is bored have pity on me
Ashley

Have PM'd Ashley with parents & maternal grandparents details just in case she needed any of them, but they are a bit too recent to post on the boards.

G.Grand parents were Fred Dixon/Florence Croxford and William James Doel/Alice Jennings.

Probably your grandmother Doris's family on the 1911 census, before she was born:

326 Portobello Road North Kensington W
Parish Kensington
Town North Kensington W
Type of Building Shop & Dwelling
Number of Rooms 3
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN185 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED21 SN51
Administrative County London
Registration District Kensington
Registration Sub District Kensington North
Enumeration District 21
Householder 1
Name William Jones Doel Sen [Note, this should read James, not Jones]
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Occupation Carter
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Contractor
Place of Birth Woolpit Suffolk
Nationality British
Householder 2
Name Alice Doel
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 11 Years
Total Children Born Alive 5
Children Still Living 5
Gender F
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth North Kensington
Nationality British
Householder 3
Name Albert Ed Doel
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1901
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hammersmith
Nationality British
Householder 4
Name William James Doel Jun
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hammersmith
Nationality British
Householder 5
Name Kathleen Doel
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hammersmith
Nationality British
Householder 6
Name Violet Doel
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth North Kensington
Nationality British
Householder 7
Name Ernest Ronnals Doel
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1910
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hammersmith
Nationality British

And their marriage:

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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>>>Doel William James Chelsea 1a 794
Farmer James Chelsea 1a 794
>>>Jennings Alice Chelsea 1a 794
Turpin Clara Chelsea 1a 794

There's another thread, which when trying to find Ashleys mother's ancestry has crossed this thread. I'll delete my posting on the other thread and move any with missing bits of info here.

i will run it past my mother again & ask for any more clues
Doris Doel married Frank Church
they lived Lewis flats
Lizgar Terrace West Kensington up until the 1980's
Jennings, Doel, & Dyer are names I recall other than that I am stumped..

Hi Ashley, perhaps you could tell us any other information that you know. Susan.

Ashley, have you tried looking to see if any other members share this family? Use the search trees box above left.
Jan

You know more than me & it's my family (really quite sad)

but thanks to all of you I will be able to start piecing everything together
I am really keen to learn everything put the puzzle pieces in place but I get so Frustrated & Cranky because I end up going nowhere but backwards
I just wish it was as simple as you make it seem...
but if it was then you wouldn't be able to spoil me with your Knowledge

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CROXFORD, Mary Jane
Address: 212 Munster Road Fulham S W

CROXFORD, Mary Jane Head Widow F 48 1863 Domestic Cleaner Marylebone London VIEW
CROXFORD, Charles Henry Son Single M 20 1891 Library Assistant Wandsworth London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
285 Reference:
RG14PN285 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED19 SN54

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North West Fulham Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Fulham

Address:
212 Munster Road Fulham S W County:
London

(6 Childrfen born, 4 living, 2 had died)

I cant be certain of anything I live on the other side of the world & I have absolutely NO contact with my relations, so I have very little to go on...

I just want to Thank You ALL for helping me
you are Angels!!

1901 England Census
about Florence M Croxford
Name: Florence M Croxford
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Croxford
Mother's name: Mary J Croxford
Gender: Female
Where born: Kentish Town, London, England

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
John Croxford 51
Mary J Croxford 38
Archibald W Croxford 20
Florence M Croxford 16
Henry C Croxford 10
Elsie C Croxford 5

Might this be your Florence and Frederick ???


1911 census - household transcription
Person: DIXON, Florence
Address: 21 Ancill Street Fulham S W


HAMMOND, Robert Head Married M 57 1854 Groundsman Navvy Norfolk VIEW
HAMMOND, Eliza Wife Married
38 years F 62 1849 Resnfield Suffolk VIEW
BANNING, Alfred Grandson M 11 1900 Fulham Midx VIEW
LESTRILLE, William Head Married M 38 1873 Tyler Slater Fulham London VIEW
LESTRILLE, Lillian Wife Married
13 years F 35 1876 Fulham London VIEW
BANNING, Blanche Niece F 7 1904 Fulham Midx VIEW
DIXON, Frederick Head Married M 41 1870 House Painter Fulham London VIEW
DIXON, Florence Wife Married
1 years F 26 1885 Kentish Town Midx VIEW
DIXON, Elsie Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Fulham London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
280 Reference:
RG14PN280 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED14 SN94

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North West Fulham Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Fulham

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING YOU ARE WONDERFUL...
feel free to keep spoiling me because I certainly dont know what I am doing
I think I love you (only Joking)

1891 England Census
about Florence Mary Croxford Name: Florence Mary Croxford
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Croxford
Mother's name: Mary J Croxford
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Croxford 41 Omnibus driver groom. Born Tooting
Mary J Croxford 29
Archelas Croxford 10
John Harold Croxford 8
Florence Mary Croxford 6
Henry Croxford 2

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Marriages Jun 1910
CROXFORD Florence Mary Fulham 1a 675
Dixon Frederick Thomas Fulham 1a 675


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