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I start with John Ralph Jones born 27/4/1881 he married Mary Jane Holland 1908 Mary Jane Holland born 16/5/1881. John Ralph was a cabinet maker

His father was John Jones born abt 1854 he married Margaret Jane Chandler born abt 1856 2/10/1876 at All Saints Newcastle. This John was a Glass packer

The next generation is another John Jones who stated on the pevious John's marriage cert. his occupation was a cabinet maker

I have been bogged down with this part of the family for sometime now and would apppreciate any help that would help me get birth and marriage certificates any helpwould be very good. Geordie

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about John Ralph Jones
Name: John Ralph Jones
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1881
Christening Date: 15 May 1881
Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's name: John Jones
Mother's name: Margaret

1891 England Census
about John R Jones
Name: John R Jones
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Jones
Mother's name: Margaret Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts
Town: Foreign Trade
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:


Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Jones 35 Glass Warehouseman<<<<<<<<
Margaret Jones 34
Annie Jones 12
John R Jones 9
Sarah Jones 7
Elizabeth Jones 3
Margaret Jones 9/12
Elizabeth Veitch 14

for ref: is this John Jones born 1854 in 1881

Name: John Jones
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Newcastle On Tyne All Sts
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 14 Picton Terrace
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lamplighter (Gas W Serv)

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Jones 27
Margaret Jones 25
Annie Jones 2
Joseph Chandler 19
Emily Gray 22

thank you Mel for your prompt help Geordie

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Jones
Name: John Jones
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 50




******Margaret Chandler 1876 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
David Grant 1876 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
****** John Jones 1876 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear

which certificates are you actually looking for?

Poss birth of this John Jones??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Jones
Name: John Jones
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 12

This is the father of John Ralph, Rutland belle. Thank you so much Geordie

JOHN JONES Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET CHANDLER Family
Marriage: 02 OCT 1876 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

ANN JONES Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 18 MAR 1879

Christening: 06 APR 1879 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN JONES Family
Mother: MARGARET

Other children of John and Margaret

1. ANN JONES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 APR 1879 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

2. ELIZABETH JONES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 OCT 1877 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

3. SARAH JONES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 JUN 1883 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

thank you again Mel that is a good help. Geordie

I can't seem to find John Jones 1854/56 on any other census with his parents!!!

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Margaret Chandler
Name: Margaret Chandler
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 21
Father's name: Joseph Chandler
Spouse's name: John Jones
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Father's Name: John Jones
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1876
Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about John Jones
Name: John Jones
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 23
Father's name: John Jones
Spouse's name: Margaret Chandler
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Chandler
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1876
Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Geordie have you got the marriage cert of John and Margaret please?

and I though Jones in Wales was difficult!

Hi folks sorry I didn't answer last night but I dosed off at the computer. Yes Mel I do have that marriage certificate and thank you so much for your replies
also thank you Rutland Belle in answer to your question, John Ralphs father birth and the marriage certificate of the oldest john jones, I don't even know the name of his wife. Maybe if I could find them in a census I might get somewhere, I am hoping someone seeing this plea for help might just come up with it. Thank you all for your assistance Geordie

I am desperate to find the birth and parents of John Jones born abt 1853 he married in1876 on the marriage certificate his fathers name is John Jones hiis moth unknown and he says he is a cabinet maker. I do not think this is correct it is more likely he was a labourer Geordie

I am desperate to find the birth and parents of John Jones born abt 1853 he married in1876 on the marriage certificate his fathers name is John Jones hiis moth unknown and he says he is a cabinet maker. I do not think this is correct it is more likely he was a labourer Geordie