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I'm stumped. Can anyone help find the birth of above. Born Kings Lynn c1837 and his father Lionel James Breeze. Assuming born in Norfolk.

His, Lionel's, occupation is given as" Gentleman" on Frederick,s marriage certificate Mar 5 1862. Frederick's age is given as 24

Many thanks, in anticipation

GB

I presume this is Frederick's son named after Frederick's father?

BREEZE, Lionel James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 28 Jun 1863 Recorded in: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, England
Father: Frederick Alfred BREEZE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1856 - 1874

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Looks like he might have been born just prior to registration:

1871 England Census

Name: Fredk Breeze
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha Breeze
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Mansfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Mansfield

Fredk Breeze 35
Martha Breeze 28
Lionel Jas Breeze 8
Alfd Breeze 3
Ann Rebeca Breeze 2
Elizh Longdon 22

There is no sign of Frederick or father pre his marriage. Are the witnesses at his wedding any help?

Was Lionel alive or dead on his son's marriage certificate?
Thanks

I'm also stumped Graham! can't see any sign pf a lionel breeze or Frederick either on previous census or IGI.
Jan

Hi Graham,
I have several members of the Norfolk Breeze family on my tree, but I'm not sure if it might be able to help you. The registration district in which I currently live used to come under King's Lynn or Wisbech, which can be quite confusing as to where their actual birthplace may be. I will take a look and see if I can come up with anything for you.
Best wishes
Jayne

Hi again, Graham

Here they are . . in Darlington!

Frederick B. 1937 King's Lynn Norfolk (Iron Labourer)
Martha B. 1846 Chapel en le Frith, Derby
Alfred B. 1867 Willington Derby (Turner and Fitter apprentice)
Albert B.1873 South Stockton, Yorks
Annie B. 1869 Whittington Derby
Maude B. 1871 Mansfield, Notts

There are no other census records re this family, and it's probably because they were moving around so much!
Jayne

P.S - the address they were living at was 4 Whessoe Lane, Darlington!

1871 census: Living at Quarry Lane, Mansfield:
Frederick 1836 Norfolk
Martha 1843 Derby
Lionel James 1863 Derby
Alfred 1868 Derby
Ann Rebecca 1869

Jayne

Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
Breeze Frederick Alfred 51 Darlington 10a 9

1891 census -
BREEZE, Martha Head Widow F 48 1843
Chapel-En-Le-Frith
Derbyshire
BREEZE, Annie Daughter Single F 22 1869 Felt Hat Trimmer
Chesterfield
Derbyshire
BREEZE, Maude Daughter Single F 19 1872 Felt Hat Trimmer
Mansfield
Nottinghamshire
BREEZE, Albert Son Single M 18 1873 Hatter
Stockport
County Durham
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2793 Folio:
160 Page:
30

Registration District:
Stockport Sub District:
Heaton Norris Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christchurch

Civil Parish:
Heaton Norris Municipal Borough:
Stockport Address:
24, Love Lane, Heaton Norris, Stockport County:
Cheshire

1901 census -
BREEZE, Martha Head Widow F 59 1842
Chapel on Frith
Derbyshire
BREEZE, Lionel J Son Married M 38 1863 Cab Proprietor
Chapel on Frith
Derbyshire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3187 Folio:
118 Page:
35

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
Bulwell Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Carrington St John the Evangelist

Civil Parish:
Nottingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Loscoe Road, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire

1911 census -
BREEZE, Martha Head Widow F 69 1842 Private Means Chapel En Le Frith
BREEZE, Annie Daughter Single F 42 1869 Private Means Chesterfield
BREEZE, Maud Daughter Single F 39 1872 Private Means Mansfield
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20645 Reference:
RG14PN20645 RG78PN1232 RD430 SD5 ED12 SN111

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
Bulwell Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Nottingham

Address:
12 Ivy Grove County:
Nottinghamshire

Original census states 5 children, all lived

Did Frederick Albert Breeze (c1837) have any brothers or sisters that you know of?

Thanks to everyone for their help.This community board is new to me so please forgive me if I get it wrong. We are all on the right track, but I think I need to get into thr Parish records pre 1837

.Frederick married MARTHA TIMMS and the witnesses were GEORGE TIMMS and HANNAH MONK. I have not yet found any siblings of Frederick to date.
Once again thanks for the help and advice
GB

As requested by Patchem earlier - was Lionel alive or dead on his son's marriage certificate?

1841 census -
ABBOTT, Joseph M 50 1791
ABBOTT, Mary F 40 1801
ABBOTT, Lucy F 15 1826
ABBOTT, Edward M 12 1829 Norfolk
ABBOTT, Elizabeth F 7 1834 Norfolk
BREEZE, Susannah F 20 1821
BREEZE, Frederick M 0 (2 months) 1841 Norfolk
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
794 Book/Folio:
49 Page:
2

Registration District:
Great Yarmouth Sub District:
Southern Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Nicholas Municipal Borough:
Great Yarmouth Address:
Kemp's Buildings, St Nicholas, Nelson, Great Yarmouth County:
Norfolk

When I search the 1841 census for Frederick Breeze, including all variants, for 1835 +/- 10 years this is the only one I come up with born in Norfolk.

It is very unusual that we cannot find Lionel in any census so could it just be possible that Frederick did not know who his father was and so he made one up? It wouldn't be the first time someone did this He then continued the tradition of naming his first born son after his "father".

Something to consider......?