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Charlie chuckles

Charlie chuckles Report 22 Jan 2011 17:28

Ronald Stothart b 1922 Hartlepool d 2005 Hartlepool
m 1952 to Violet Hall
His mums sirname according to the lists is Downie, haven't got christian names or marriage for either of his parents and I've now got a headache!!
any help appreciated
Carol

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 22 Jan 2011 17:35

His is the only birth I can see - no siblings ... ?

Jill

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:36

gland & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Ronald Stothart Name: Ronald Stothart
Mother's Maiden Surname: Downie
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1922
Registration district: Hartlepool
Registration County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 330

Poss??

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about John P Stothart Name: John P Stothart
Spouse Surname: Downie
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Registration district: Sunderland
Registration county (inferred): Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1408
Find Spouse: Find Spouse



Abigail Downie Stothart Apr-May-Jun 1934 Sunderland Durham

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:37

Well, the optionis there to get his birth cert. But there is this marriage:

Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
Downie Abigail Stothart Sunderland 10a 1408
Stothart John P Downie Sunderland 10a 1408

EDIT See Mel has found it too!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:39

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
STOTHART John Pounder Hartlepool 10a 126

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:40

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
STOTHART John Pounder Sunderland 10a 1166

Maybe married before so couldn't marry Abigal??

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:44

1911

STOTHART, John Pounder Head Married M 27 1884 Grocer Provision Merchant Hartlepool C/o Durham VIEW
YOUNG, William Dixon Boarder Single M 26 1885 Patternmaker Sunderland C/o Durham VIEW
YOUNG, Arthur Boarder Single M 22 1889 Patternmaker Sunderland C/o Durham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29645 Reference:
RG14PN29645 RG78PN1718B RD545 SD1 ED45 SN148

Registration District:
Hartlepool Sub District:
Hartlepool Enumeration District:
45 Parish:
Throston

Address:
20 Cleveland Road Hartlepool County:
Durham

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:44

Oh good one Jan.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:45

Can't find a birth for an Abigail Downie but there is one for a Adelaide A F Downie.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:46

If I were you I would get his birth cert anyway - the name is good to research obviously but you don't want to go wrong!
jan

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:47

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about John Pounder Stothart Name: John Pounder Stothart
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1886
Christening Date: 22 Jan 1886
Christening Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's name: Jonathan Dawson Stothart
Mother's name: Sarah Ann

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Jan 2011 17:49

I wonder if Abigail might be scottish? just a thought, it sounds possible and not too far away!

Charlie chuckles

Charlie chuckles Report 22 Jan 2011 17:52

i wondered if maybe he got married after Rons birth, that would explain everything! I'm doing this for his son who lost his mum this week, just off my own back--just something for him to have, he's always been interested in my chunterings -think I'll order the birth cert--
thankyou soo much evryone xx

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:52

1891 England Census
about John P Stothart Name: John P Stothart
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's name: Jonathan D Stothart
Mother's name: Sarah A Stothart
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool St Hildas
Town: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan D Stothart 35
Sarah A Stothart 32
Mary A Stothart 9
William D Stothart 8
John P Stothart 5
James Stothart 3
Sarah A Stothart 1

1901 England Census
about John Poundar Stothart Name: John Poundar Stothart
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's name: Jonathan Dawson Stothart
Mother's name: Sarah Ann Stothart
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Throston
Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 183
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Dawson Stothart 45
Sarah Ann Stothart 41
William Dawson Stothart 18
John Poundar Stothart 15
Mary Ann Stothart 19
James Stothart 13
Sarah Alice Stothart 10



Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2011 17:54

Ahh that is nice Carol. Good luck with the birth cert.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Jan 2011 18:06


Hi CC,,,,John Pounder Stothart had a prior marriage in 1909.of which there could have been 2 possible children?

John A 1912.--Durham
Alexander P 1914-- Durham

---------------------.

Marriage.

10a 1166.
Sunderland.

Emma Watson.?

Ann Richards Young.?

an Ann R Stothart died in 1919 Hartlepool age 38.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 22 Jan 2011 18:12

I'm liking this thread - lovely name to research:-

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Stothart John A Young Hartlepool 10a 298
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
STOTHART Alexander P Young Hartlepool 10a 331

Jill

Charlie chuckles

Charlie chuckles Report 23 Jan 2011 13:23

Thanks everyone xx I sent for Ronalds birth cert yesterday so hopefully it won't take too long--
I do love doing this, even when its someone else's tree

Charlie chuckles

Charlie chuckles Report 30 Jan 2011 20:27

Got cert
John P is our man-WW1 record give wife as Ann Richards Young 2 kids
John and Alexander, well done everyone and thanks again xx

Charlie chuckles

Charlie chuckles Report 10 Feb 2011 09:11

Thanks everyone--Bri was really chuffed with the end results xxx