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Hi Jan

Thanks for the info. Fortunately, this lady was in her early 70's by 1919.

I was going to get her death certificate and see where she was living at the time and then look back from 1936 to see how long she was there and with whom as I am not aware of any blood relatives in the area

Regards

Chrissey

Chrissey, electoral registers at the time are searchable by address only. Before 1919 not very useful to most of us. Remember she would only get the vote in 1919 (if over 30), and 1929 if over 21.
jan

Hi All

The mystery still goes on.

I found Jane, or to give her full name, Mary Jane. She is on the 1911 census as living in Bath as maid to the wife of a previous employer so she was not in St Albans at that time.

I am going to have a look though the electoral rolls between 1911 -1936 (when she died) and see if she is about

Regards

Chrissey :-)

Steve - you could try Land Registry:

www.landregistry.gov.uk

Hi MarieCeleste

Thanks for looking.

I will have to visit the road to see if any of the houses are identified as Elstree Villas. The will says it was 3 houses so it may or may not include either of the above

Do you know if there are any records going back to 1909 onwards which show property sales?

Regards

Steve

If it's of any help, on the 1911 street index, numbers 27& 29 are listed as one property, as are 47 & 49.

Jane Waller:

WALLER, Arthur Head Married M 26 1885 Butcher's Assistant St Albans
WALLER, Jane Wife Married 5 years F 30 1881 Tandridge
WALLER, Beatrice Daughter F 4 1907 St Albans
WALLER, Arthur Son M 2 1909 St Albans
MINNIS, Fred Boarder Single M 27 1884 Groom Hitchin

RG number: RG14 Piece: 7661
Reference: RG14PN7661 RG78PN377 RD139 SD1 ED9 SN101

Registration District: St Albans Sub District: Harpenden Enumeration District: 9 Parish: St Alban

Address: 42 Culver Road St Albans County: Hertfordshire

Here's Jane Frulock - I think the name is actually Trulock written badly:

FRULOCK, William James Head Married 29 years M 63 1848 Mason Pensioned Wiltshire Mindon
FRULOCK, Jane Wife Married 29 years F 55 1856 Warwickshire Leamington
FRULOCK, George Son Single M 28 1883 Carpenter Warwickshire Leamington
FRULOCK, Fred Son Single M 24 1887 Straw Hat Brocker Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Arthur Son Single M 21 1890 Wire Weaver Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Harry Son Single M 19 1892 Printer's Layer - On Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Edward Son Single M 18 1893 Printer's Layer - On Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Thomas Son M 15 1896 Errand Boy Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, James Son M 13 1898 School - Boy Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1901 School Herts St Albans
FRULOCK, Frank Son M 7 1904 School Herts St Albans

RG number: RG14 Piece: 7661
Reference: RG14PN7661 RG78PN377 RD139 SD1 ED9 SN95

Registration District: St Albans Sub District: Harpenden Enumeration District: 9 Parish: St Alban

Address: 32 Culver Road St Albans County: Hertfordshire

ADDED: The family are also living in this house in 1901 as Trulock.

Chrissey/Steve - who was the great-grandfather who bequeathed the houses?

... someone may be able to find something in the wills/probate index?

Just to be clear - who is Alfred?

Hi all

I have looked for a marriage between Alfred and Jane but cannot find one.
I had a look for a Jane as suggested by Jan and found 2 in St Albans
Jane Frulock b 1856 and Jane Waller b 1881.

Would someone be able to look at these ladies and see where they lived

Thanks and regards

Steve

There are a few houses in Upper Calver Road with plaques on but I cannot read two of them.

Jill

Can't see any more of those plaques but there is an Upper Culver Road.

Jill

I've spotted a "Gladstone Cottage" down the road a bit ... I'm on the case now!

Google Earth. The houses look as if they could be Victorian. If you start at the left hand end of the road and just a few houses in on the left you can see "Garfield Cottages 1885" above the green front door on that terrace.

Jill

If you do a free 1911 search you can look at everyone living there by specifying surname beginning with "a" etc, and putting Culver Road in residential place box.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

There might be a name you recognise.

Jan

Hi all

Thank you for looking, I will have to visit the local library and see if there are any maps which show it

Regards

Chrissey

Perhaps they were rented out?

Have you tried Google Earth and zoomed in to see if there are any house names?

Jill

OK, found my way to the household schedule on Ancestry and no Elstree Villas in the road. Sorry. It may be the name above a house/two houses that are also given numbers. We have houses like that near here - all numbered but also given those names above the two front doors ...

Jill

Is it definitely Parkins?

PERKINS, James Head Married
42 years M 63 1848 Stone Mason Ketton Rutland VIEW
PERKINS, Matilda Wife Married
42 years F 60 1851 Tring Herts VIEW
PERKINS, Winerfred Kate Daughter Single F 22 1889 Straw Hat Machinist St Albans Herts VIEW
PERKINS, Floria Granddaughter Single F 11 1900 St Albans Herts VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7661 Reference:
RG14PN7661 RG78PN377 RD139 SD1 ED9 SN107

Registration District:
St Albans Sub District:
Harpenden Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
St Alban

Address:
54 Culver Road St Albans County:
Hertfordshire

Elstree Cottages, Cowper Road ?

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