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So who are Richard and Mary Hunt?

Are they her mother and stepfather? could samuel Brush be a made up name? or perhaps he died when she was young?

jax

Thanks Moonbeam

I took a look, very interesting,
they did move about Maria was born Bermondsey hard to read the address

their son George was born 1855 in the City of London lying in hospital St Lukes Middlesex

Annabel

Getting back to your first question. The address on the baptism record is 15 Stowage as Sylvia said. If you Google "Stowage" in Google Maps you will see this street is in Greenwich - it's still there, just a short way from Deptford High street.

Sent for Maria Stevens birth certificate, her mother is Catherine Stevens formally Brush father George Stevens iron foundry worker so same family that I have in the 1861,1871, and 1881 census, Catherine born Gibraltar, George born Great Missingdon Bucks

So on the marriage certificate of George Stevens and Catherine Brush in 1845 her father is a Samuel Brush occupation tailor, been looking for him but no luck any fresh eyes have a look for me.

Thank you Annabel

Sylvialn/Canada

Thanks for the info. Yes of course it could be 1847 or first quarter of 1848.
Even thats stretching it a bit because I believe Richards was dob 1949 but may be.

Regards

Vera

Vera

That Jan-Mar registration means any registration during those 3 months


thus it could have meant a birth any time from mid-November to end of March (if they'd got to the registrar quickly!)

so it doesn't rule out it possibly being Annabel's Richard.



sylvia

Annabel

I did notice when searching for the childrens possible certs that there were two registrations for a Richard and a Joseph for the St Pancras district which is close to the Islington area.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Stevens Name: Joseph Stevens
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1


Page: 366 (click to see others on page)


Name: Richard Stevens
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 41 (click to see others on page)
EDIT correction don't think this can be your Richard as it is a January
reg therefore born in 1847.

Vera

Thank you all


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about George Stevens Name: George Stevens
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: St Luke
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 583 (click to see others on page)

I have a copy of this birth cert

Father George Stevens
mother Catherine Stevens formally Brush
they were married1845 st Giles Cripplegate
Catherines father was a Samuel Brush,



been working on this for a long time and getting no where.

Annabel

1871

STEVENS, George Head M 47 1824 Buckinghamshire VIEW
STEVENS, Catharine Wife F 44 1827 Gibraltar VIEW
STEVENS, George Son M 16 1855 London VIEW
STEVENS, John Son M 2 1869 Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
73 Folio:
49 Page:
26

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea, South Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Chelsea Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cremorne Terrace, Chelsea County:
London, Middlesex



Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
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STEVENS John Greenwich 1d 745

FMP transcription for 1851

HUNT, Richard Head Married M 56 1795 Labourer In Iron Foundry
East Grinstead
Sussex VIEW
HUNT, Mary Wife Married F 54 1797 Labourer Wife
Galway
Ireland VIEW
HUNT, Catharine S Daughter Married F 24 1827 Shoe Binder
Gibraltar
British Subject VIEW
STEVENS, Richard Grand Son M 2 1849 Home
St Lukes
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1522 Folio:
293 Page:
9

Registration District:
Saint Luke Sub District:
Whitecross Street Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Thomas Charterhouse

Civil Parish:
Saint Lukes Municipal Borough:
Finsbury Address:
104, Golden Lane, Saint Lukes, Finsbury County:
Middlesex

Possibility for George

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about George Stevens Name: George Stevens
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: St Luke
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 583 (click to see others on page)


Regards

Vera

I think place of birth for Maria on 1861 census is Bermondsey, Surrey.

She is aged 1, not 4, on the original census return -


Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
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STEVENS Maria Bermondsey 1d 66

Good luck!

Thank you will check it out.




Annabel

This could be John Stevens birth registration ... the youngest child

Greenwich is the registration centre that includes Deptford

Births Jun 1868 (>99%)

STEVENS John Greenwich 1d 745




sylvia

You are quicker than me that is the family, as Catherine says she was born in Gibraltar so can not trace her birth, have tried tracing Richard Hunt 1795 born East Grinstead


Annabel

Hi Sylvia

George Stevens 1824 Buckinghamshire and Catherine Stevens 1827 Gibraltar are on the 1861,1871,1881, census

on the 1851 George is with his parents listed as married,in Islington

Catherine is on it as Catherine Hunt daughter married with a Richard Stevens grandson, they made a mess up of the pages there is a Richard and Mary Hunt on another page with the same household number.

I can not pin down any of George and Catherines children birth to send for a certificate


thank you Annabel

I don't know whether you have this ....... here are Richard and Catharine in 1851. Is this how you got to the possible maiden name for Catharine?

1851 Census

Name: Richard Stevens
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Catherine S Hunt
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Luke Old Street
Ecclesiastical parish: Charterhouse St Thomas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Whitecross Street

Thomas Thomas 42 b.ca 1809
Mary Thomas 50
Adolphus Thomas 13
John Thomas 11
Thomas Thomas 8
Catherine S Hunt 24 b.ca 1827, Girbarltar, British Subject, Married, Shoe Binder
Richard Stevens 2


someone has added alternative Information for Catherine:-

Name: Catherine S Hunt
[Catherine S Thomas]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Thomas
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: British Subject, Gibraltar


Catharine is shown in the 1861 Census as Boot Binder




AHA

great confusion on the census image


Catharine is NOT associated with the Thomas'


she should be with Richard and Mary Hunt on the previous page.


The Thomas' are on p. 1, repeated on p.9, and then crossed out.



sylvia

so this is the family (you think) in 1861?

Name: Maria Stevens
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Stevens
Mother's Name: Catharine Stevens
Gender: Female
Where born: Beranbridge, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Deptford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

George Stevens 37 Iron Moulder
Catharine Stevens 34
Richard Stevens 12
Joseph Stevens 10
George Stevens 6
Maria Stevens 4



sylvia

Thanks Sylvia

I have Maria in the 1861 census birth 1857 Beranbridge Surrey. then can not find her.

What I am trying to find is her birth to see what her mothers maiden name was, as I can not find a marriage for her parents ( if they were married )

Could be George Stevens born Buckinghamshire 1824and Catherine Hunt born Gibraltar 1827

this family is my friends brick wall.

Annabel